jimkelly02 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, agarcia34 said: Very interesting he would say that considering he had to get some type of strong connection to them that separates the Raiders from the other teams he’s talked too. Or he’s just being opportunistic and trying to drive up his stock in the media. He was a 2nd rounder according to most last month now talked about as option at 19.... he’s a smart guy and just trying to add to the wave. i remember Stanford Routt say we had no contact with him before draft, was total secret. I’ve heard this many times but our draftees (through interviews and articles). We do a great job not letting info slip to players that would get back to other coaches. with exception of Gruden... wasn’t he running around telling people he had to have Jacobs? Edited April 8, 2020 by jimkelly02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 As much as I like Jaylon Johnson, I am worried about his non-elite long speed. It's why I prefer Fulton and Terrell in that facet, who've shown their ability to run with really fast guys. If Johnson was a little faster, he'd be a top 15 prospect easily IMO. I'm a bit torn on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: As much as I like Jaylon Johnson, I am worried about his non-elite long speed. It's why I prefer Fulton and Terrell in that facet, who've shown their ability to run with really fast guys. If Johnson was a little faster, he'd be a top 15 prospect easily IMO. I'm a bit torn on him. With you on this. Fact is, the AFC west has to draft speed to combat what KC is doing on offense. Corners and safeties who can run are going be at a premium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, big_palooka said: With you on this. Fact is, the AFC west has to draft speed to combat what KC is doing on offense. Corners and safeties who can run are going be at a premium. Yeah if Henderson falls to 19 I think the Raiders bite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, big_palooka said: With you on this. Fact is, the AFC west has to draft speed to combat what KC is doing on offense. Corners and safeties who can run are going be at a premium. It's why I keep coming back to Terrell. Just like Mullen, he's 6'1 200 pounds. Runs in the mid to low 4.4s. Looks fast. Has really good hips. Tackles in the run game. Clemson guy. Character. Played in tons of high stakes games. Played well in most of them (unless you count LSU and I still think it wasn't as bad as it looked in that game). He needs to develop his upper body though so he can press with more effectiveness. That's why Chase killed him. But chase is probably more physical than 90% of NFL receivers. When we look back in 3-4 years on this corner class, Okudah will probably be the best. But Terrell has a strong chance to be the next guy. Not much that he can't do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: It's why I keep coming back to Terrell. Just like Mullen, he's 6'1 200 pounds. Runs in the mid to low 4.4s. Looks fast. Has really good hips. Tackles in the run game. Clemson guy. Character. Played in tons of high stakes games. Played well in most of them (unless you count LSU and I still think it wasn't as bad as it looked in that game). He needs to develop his upper body though so he can press with more effectiveness. That's why Chase killed him. But chase is probably more physical than 90% of NFL receivers. When we look back in 3-4 years on this corner class, Okudah will probably be the best. But Terrell has a strong chance to be the next guy. Not much that he can't do. Actually Raiders might take Henderson at #12 the guy 's sticky. Denzel Mims at #19 Edited April 8, 2020 by raidr4life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justwinning Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Yeah if Henderson falls to 19 I think the Raiders bite. Henderson won’t slide past #17 Dallas needs a CB pretty bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BayRaider Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: As much as I like Jaylon Johnson, I am worried about his non-elite long speed. It's why I prefer Fulton and Terrell in that facet, who've shown their ability to run with really fast guys. If Johnson was a little faster, he'd be a top 15 prospect easily IMO. I'm a bit torn on him. Okudah ran a 4.48/4.49 at the combine and Johnson ran a 4.50. If speed is the issue, they are about the same. Even on game tape. Not that I’m comparing them as prospect, Okudah is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: As much as I like Jaylon Johnson, I am worried about his non-elite long speed. It's why I prefer Fulton and Terrell in that facet, who've shown their ability to run with really fast guys. If Johnson was a little faster, he'd be a top 15 prospect easily IMO. I'm a bit torn on him. Trayvon Mullen ran a 4.46 and Johnson ran a 4.50. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, raidr4life said: Actually Raiders might take Henderson at #12 the guy 's sticky. Denzel Mims at #19 I could honestly see the Jaguars taking Henderson at #9 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: It's why I keep coming back to Terrell. Just like Mullen, he's 6'1 200 pounds. Runs in the mid to low 4.4s. Looks fast. Has really good hips. Tackles in the run game. Clemson guy. Character. Played in tons of high stakes games. Played well in most of them (unless you count LSU and I still think it wasn't as bad as it looked in that game). He needs to develop his upper body though so he can press with more effectiveness. That's why Chase killed him. But chase is probably more physical than 90% of NFL receivers. When we look back in 3-4 years on this corner class, Okudah will probably be the best. But Terrell has a strong chance to be the next guy. Not much that he can't do. LSU game wasn't as bad as it looks. Just recency bias and Chase will be a problem for a lot of CBs, he's an absolute stud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Trayvon Mullen ran a 4.46 and Johnson ran a 4.50. It's not just timed speed. Mullen also played fast. He ran step for step with Alabama guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, big_palooka said: LSU game wasn't as bad as it looks. Just recency bias and Chase will be a problem for a lot of CBs, he's an absolute stud. If Chase was in this draft he'd be the first WR off the board IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, MrOaktown_56 said: It's not just timed speed. Mullen also played fast. He ran step for step with Alabama guys. Agreed. I think if we're going to take a CB at #19 it'll be AJ Terrell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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