tannenballs Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Hope to do my best to keep this updated... Cal LB Evan Weaver Cal FS Ashytn Davis Louisiana OT Robert Hunt Vanderbilt WR Kalija Lipscomb Vanderbilt RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn Vanderbilt TE Jared Pinkney South Carolina State OT Alex Taylor Southern Illinois SAF Jeremy Chinn FAU TE Harrison Bryant Colorado LB Davion Taylor Lenoir-Ryhne SAF Kyle Dugger Purdue TE Brycen Hopkins Liberty WR Antonio Gandy-Golden Clemson SAF K'Von Wallace Oklahoma State CB AJ Green Minnesota LB Carter Coughlin Minnesota LB Kamal Martin NC State DT Larell Murchison Saint John's (MN) OL Ben Bartch Arizona WR Brandon Aiyuk Georgia Southern CB Kindle Vildor South Carolina DT Javon Kinlaw Texas Tech OT Terrance Steele Mississippi State DB Brian Cole USC WR Michael Pittman Dayton TE Adam Trautman West Virginia OT Colton McKivitz Kansas OT Hakeem Adeniji Houston OT Josh Jones Texas Tech LB Jordyn Brooks South Carolina WR Bryan Edwards South Carolina DE DJ Wonnum Michigan SAF Josh Metellus North Carolina DT Jason Strowbridge Kentucky OG Logan Sternberg Josh Uche OLB Michigan Ben Bredeson OG Michigan Prince Tega Wanogho OT Auburn Devin Duvernay WR Texas Jeff Gladney CB TCU Brandon Jones SAF Texas Neville Gallimore DT Oklahoma Lamichael Perine RB Florida Jabari Zuniga DE Florida Jonathan Greenard DE Florida Marlon Davidson DE Auburn Collin Johnson WR Texas Matt Peart OT UCONN Darrell Taylor OLB Tennessee Trevon Hill DE Miami Tremayne Anchrum OG Clemson John Simpson OG Clemson Francis Bernard LB Utah Julian Blackmon DB Utah Jalen Elliott DB Notre Dame Khalid Kareem DE Notre Dame Chase Claypool WR Notre Dame Troy Price CB Notre Dame Troy Dye LB Oregon Leki Fotu DT Utah Terrell Burgess DB Utah Alton Robinson DE Syracuse Zack Moss HB Utah Logan Wilson LB Wyoming Edited November 15, 2019 by tannenballs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 The two players from that list that I've heard significant buzz about are Vanderbilt TE Jared Pinkney and Vandy RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn. Vaughn ran decently at Illinois as a freshman and sophomore, but transferred to the SEC and has pretty much run wild so far. He's a really nice receiver with a pro build. I wouldn't call him a bruiser, but he has potential for being a good short-yardage back. He has impressive wiggle and looks like he's gotten faster each year of his college career with impressive burst and good long speed. He's projected to run in the 4.4s, ran a 4.71 coming out of high school. He can make you miss and is really a nice back all-around, sort of reminds me of Devonta Freeman where he can do a bit of everything. I will say that I like him a lot more than Freeman as a runner coming out. He'd be getting a lot more attention playing for literally any other SEC school. Jared Pinkney is potentially a 1st-round caliber tight end. He has some good size and good blocking potential. He plays with his hand in the dirt most of the time, can square up to defenders and has the strength to hold his own in-line. He should transition fairly quickly to the pros. He has good route-running ability and he uses his length to bully linebackers and safeties. He probably isn't going to be a Gronk type tight end where he'll hurt you a ton after the catch. He churns his legs through contact, but he's not that creative and doesn't possess a ton of elusiveness after the catch. He has good hands though, and can make plenty of contested catches in the middle of the field. His burst is just okay, so he doesn't create a ton of separation against stronger defenders when he can't bully them. He has some room for growth as a blocker, that's a good thing because he's already better than a lot of prospects in that regard. I don't know that he's a move tight end, but he's a good receiver who can be a safety valve for the QB and could be a positive contributor as a receiver while being a solid blocker. He sort of reminds me of a better Troy Fumagalli from a couple years back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 A couple more big names that everybody should be familiar with: Brycen Hopkins and Antonio Gandy-Golden. Gandy-Golden is a 6'4", 220 wide receiver from Liberty. He has excellent burst and agility for his size. He can use his quickness to move laterally effortlessly, and he's a lot more elusive than you'd think. However, his bread and butter, his signature sauce, is contested catches. You'd think that with his size that he could be dangerous in the red zone, and you'd be absolutely correct. He uses his frame and athleticism perfectly to win at the catch point. He can out-muscle and out-body anyone in contested catch situations and makes loads of crazy highlight reel catches. He's not that natural of a route runner, and will probably have to work hard on that aspect of his game in the NFL. However, he has really strong hands and the frame to create a different kind of separation at the next level, with the speed and athleticism to beat you deep. He's not a hands-fighter at the line of the scrimmage, leading to him getting jammed against press a lot, but he has the athleticism and quickness to develop against press at the next level. He has a really high ceiling, and early in his career he could still be good as a red zone and deep threat target. We say that big guys are good in the red zone a lot, but this guy is SPECIAL at the catch point. I'd probably rate him better than N'Keal Harry, Lil'Jordan Humphrey, Collin Johnson, or Tee Higgins in that regard. Now, Brycen Hopkins is a really, really good tight end prospect from Purdue. Hopkins is an incredible athlete. Think Evan Engram or Vernon Davis as far as explosion goes. I wouldn't blink if Hopkins ran his 40 in the 4.4 range. And he's not JUST a raw athlete to run vertical routes down the seam like Noah Fant or Mike Gesicki. Hopkins is a super-polished and incredibly refined route runner who runs a wide variety of routes at Purdue. He is super precise and sharp in cuts, a trait that even many receiving tight ends lack. He's explosive off the line, and he's explosive getting into blocks. He's generally a very polished blocker, and gives great effort to fight through blocks. However, he's undersized as a blocker and that will hinder him. Still, he's probably pretty close to being the best blocker that a 240 lbs tight end can be. Like I said, he's really good in that regard, and don't let me sell you short on it. He won't pancake guys and you may want to flex him away from bigger or stronger defensive ends, but he will be an asset when matched up against DBs and LBs as a blocker. He has really soft hands and has been excellent so far in contested catch situations at Purdue. Because Hopkins ran a wealth of routes and has lined up in a variety of roles at Purdue (flexed out wide, in the slot, in-line, or in the backfield), I expect him to have one of the easiest transitions to the NFL that we've seen from tight ends in recent years, a la Evan Engram. If you have the scheme that requires it, Hopkins could be a really good receiver and a solid blocker lined up in-line every snap, but you're probably holding him back from being his best self if you do so. He's at his best when he moves around the formation, as he is a true matchup nightmare that gives defensive coordinators fits. He's explosive out of his stance to beat you early in the route while also being precise and fast to at the top of the route. Literally, the only two things holding him back from being the best TE prospect I've scouted are the fact that he's only 240-245 lbs, and the fact that he hasn't had a ton of experience in the red zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 hours ago, HoboRocket said: The two players from that list that I've heard significant buzz about are Vanderbilt TE Jared Pinkney and Vandy RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn. Vaughn ran decently at Illinois as a freshman and sophomore, but transferred to the SEC and has pretty much run wild so far. He's a really nice receiver with a pro build. I wouldn't call him a bruiser, but he has potential for being a good short-yardage back. He has impressive wiggle and looks like he's gotten faster each year of his college career with impressive burst and good long speed. He's projected to run in the 4.4s, ran a 4.71 coming out of high school. He can make you miss and is really a nice back all-around, sort of reminds me of Devonta Freeman where he can do a bit of everything. I will say that I like him a lot more than Freeman as a runner coming out. He'd be getting a lot more attention playing for literally any other SEC school. Jared Pinkney is potentially a 1st-round caliber tight end. He has some good size and good blocking potential. He plays with his hand in the dirt most of the time, can square up to defenders and has the strength to hold his own in-line. He should transition fairly quickly to the pros. He has good route-running ability and he uses his length to bully linebackers and safeties. He probably isn't going to be a Gronk type tight end where he'll hurt you a ton after the catch. He churns his legs through contact, but he's not that creative and doesn't possess a ton of elusiveness after the catch. He has good hands though, and can make plenty of contested catches in the middle of the field. His burst is just okay, so he doesn't create a ton of separation against stronger defenders when he can't bully them. He has some room for growth as a blocker, that's a good thing because he's already better than a lot of prospects in that regard. I don't know that he's a move tight end, but he's a good receiver who can be a safety valve for the QB and could be a positive contributor as a receiver while being a solid blocker. He sort of reminds me of a better Troy Fumagalli from a couple years back. Jared Pinkney has greatly disappointed this year, he has been totally not a factor in many games Vandy has played this year. Huge disappointment no doubt about it I feel, has not made much of an impact as a pass catcher at all and probably got a little over hyped off of what he did last year honestly. 1st round? No freaking way on that. Cole Kmet is way better and has more upside I feel, not to mention Okwuegbunam is better than him also arguably. And Jacob Breeland is better than Pinkney as well, or at least was playing that way before he sadly got injured this season. And Bryce Hopkins I like, I think he is a promising player but the Vernon Davis talk? Vernon Davis is arguably the most athletically impressive TE in terms of pure speed and power to ever come into the NFL and is potentially a Hall of Famer. Brycen Hopkins is not that and will not be a top 10 pick either obviously. Davis ran a 4.38 40 time, I mean come on that is amazing and Hopkins is simply not that elite of an athlete if you are comparing him to Vernon Davis in terms of athletic ability. Hopkins is probably a mid round draft pick most likely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Who coaches the senior bowl normally first year staffs? I'd like Denver to do it again as a fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lark25 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Ozzy would be far better covering the draft than the Matt Millers of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 hours ago, thebestever6 said: Who coaches the senior bowl normally first year staffs? I'd like Denver to do it again as a fan It’s the two worst teams, if for some reason one of those coaching staffs can’t, for example because that team is looking for a new HC or just doesn’t want to I think, then the opportunity continues on to the next team in draft order until a team has accepted. Atleast that’s the way I’ve always believed it to work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Fureys49ers said: Atleast that’s the way I’ve always believed it to work. Dang Redskins and Bengals/Dolphins?? They go AFC NFC along with the two worst teams right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Dang Redskins and Bengals/Dolphins?? They go AFC NFC along with the two worst teams right? Yea, again. Haven’t looked it up but I believe that’s the way it works, one AFC and one NFC. So the Bengals should have the AFC spot wrapped up as long as they roll one more year with Taylor at HC. NFC could be different than the skins since they’ll be looking for a HC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I'm on the Kmet Train. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 4/6 TE spots filled. Any guesses on the final two? Maybe they are reserving a spot for a guy like Albert O? Not sure if will graduate in December or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, tannenballs said: 4/6 TE spots filled. Any guesses on the final two? Maybe they are reserving a spot for a guy like Albert O? Not sure if will graduate in December or not Maybe an under the radar type like Nick Bowers out of Penn State? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammerHammer21 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 Who does the forum think are the 6 Quarterbacks this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) On 11/5/2019 at 3:49 PM, tannenballs said: Hope to do my best to keep this updated... Vanderbilt RB Ke'Shawn Vaughn Vanderbilt TE Jared Pinkney Purdue TE Brycen Hopkins Liberty WR Antonio Gandy-Golden Oklahoma State CB AJ Green Arizona WR Brandon Aiyuk South Carolina DT Javon Kinlaw USC WR Michael Pittman Kansas OT Hakeem Adeniji South Carolina WR Bryan Edwards Kentucky OG Logan Sternberg Ben Bredeson OG Michigan Prince Tega Wanogho OT Auburn Lamichael Perine RB Florida Off the top of my head, all of these guys could push for Day 2 Draft status (some could even go on Thursday night) if the season were to end today. Obviously, there is still football to be played, not to mention all-star games, the Combine, and Pro Days that will probably dramatically affect a lot of prospects' stock, but based off of RIGHT NOW, these are the guys off the top of my head. Sadly, I'm not super familiar with the defensive side of the ball yet, as I have only just finished scouting and scouring the offensive side of the draft class yet. Defensively, I'm mostly just familiar with the top prospects and some day two guys. Expect write-ups for all of these guys that I haven't written about yet. Edit: also, Aiyuk is from Arizona State, not U of A, if I remember correctly. Thanks, tannenballs Edited November 9, 2019 by HoboRocket Pro Tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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