big poppa pump Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Oline (T) Edge Rusher Safety TE OLB DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 OL - (overhaul between draft, trades, FA) I prefer veterans and one stud draft pick TE - We need a stud #1 guy DL - Out interior pass rush is trash and needs to be upgraded (I hate to do this but I really wanted Jeffery Simmons or DreMont Jones) FB - Give me a meathead from Wisconsin KR/PR - We need a guy with some juice back there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Just now, MSURacerDT55 said: OL - (overhaul between draft, trades, FA) I prefer veterans and one stud draft pick TE - We need a stud #1 guy DL - Out interior pass rush is trash and needs to be upgraded (I hate to do this but I really wanted Jeffery Simmons or DreMont Jones) FB - Give me a meathead from Wisconsin KR/PR - We need a guy with some juice back there 1 minute ago, MSURacerDT55 said: FB - Give me a meathead from Wisconsin Our short yardage run game would improve tremendously imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsDog23 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 3 hours ago, HH650 said: So, would you pay the Trade price for Jamal Adams and buy Scherf from Washington? I’d prefer to sign a RT like Conklin or Bulaga and as far as Adams I’d have to no, the Jets apparently want a Mack type deal and no Safety is worth that price especially one that doesn’t take the ball away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 I finally got a chance to watch the full game and one thing that is beyond evident is that Wyatt Teller was another OL investment miss. He's really bad unfortunately. Two 5th round picks down the drain. He's not strong at the point and is even worse than Eric Kush as Teller doesn't have the lower body and backside to anchor so he just gets ran over every other play or displaced into the backfield consistently. RG for an undersized QB like Baker is actually more important than a Tackle.when it comes to seeing the middle of the field actions. RG might actually be our biggest need of the offseason now. ------- We need a lot of things but to me there are certain positions that have the chance to completely change the complexion of our offense and defense. They might not be the "biggest needs" per se but they have the "biggest impact" potential based on upgrading those positions. Biggest Impact Positions for Upgrade: 1.) RG 2.) Hybrid Safety that can range playmake 3.) All Around Impact TE with blocking and pass catching prowess 4.) Impact Pass Rushing Specialist with Juice 5.) Speed Threat Reliable Hands Boundary WR with Slot Versatility It might sound crazy but I'd easily prioritize the upgrading of those positions even over LT/RT or interior DT because such upgrades have the chance at impacting our team the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Offensive line should be ashamed of themselves. Look at :31 and the effort Nick Chubb runs with. How the F do you get stopped 8 times after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 LT LT and more LT. Oh and RT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Bonanza23 said: LT LT and more LT. Oh and RT. RG over LT and RT though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 At this point in the season, who knows who's going to actually make it to UFA (many will likely sign contracts in the next few weeks or at the end of the season), but this Free Agent periods is shaping up nicely thus far for some of our biggest positions of need. All of our Key needs might be able to be addressed (RG, LT, RT, Blocking-Receiving TE, Hybrid Safety) except for the need for a Speed Threat Reliable Hands Boundary WR2 with Slot Versatility. IMO, the need at Guard is more important based on how Baker starts to press when he feels like interior pressure is coming through. That's what forces him out the door right. Also, because of his height a guard being pushed back in his lap restricts his vision more so than other much taller QBs. UFA 2020 players: Guard Brandon Scherff Justin McCray Graham Glasgow RT Bryan Bulaga Jack Conklin LT Anthony Castonzo Halapoulivaati Vaitai TE Jack Doyle Austin Hooper DT Vernon Butler FS Justin SImmons SS Jimmie Ward Nickel Safety Vonn Bell ---- A perfect Free Agency to me would start with signing Guard Brandon Sherff and include singing Hybrid Safety Jimme Ward, All Around TE Jack Doyle, either signing FS Justin SImmons or resigning Damarious Randall on a bargain contract at FS, us signing 1 RT out of Bryan Bulaga and Jack Conklinin (both injury prone and likely can be had for a somewhat more reasonable RT contract), and us signing 1 of LT Anthony Castonzo and Halapoulivaati Vaitai. Castonzo will be the highest paid LT in the league so I don't know if we'd go that far as he's good but not elite enough to necessarily warrant that contract. Vaitai has upside but could be a bust as he's either stellar on snaps or let's DEs turn the corner on him with no resistance. I doubt we'd be able to get or pay both Sherff and Castonzo so maybe it's one or the other so the backup Guard option would be Graham Glasgow. I like Randall for what he provides but his injuries are taking some of his juice away. We have a sound defense but we don't have the requisite speed or explosiveness at either safety position to have range-playmaking forces and elevate our defense. Justin Simmons would be an upgrade in that regard. ---- Having an OLine of: LT Vaitai/Castonzo --- LG Bitonio ---- C Tretter --- RG Scherff/Glasgow ----- RT Bulaga/Conklin A Safety pairing of: FS Justin Simmons/Darmarious Randall --- Hybrid SS Jimme Ward A TE positional Group of: TE Jack Doyle --- TE David Njoku This would allow us to focus our draft capital on BPA instead of drafting for need. We could then spend our top 2 picks on a pass rusher to pair with Myles and use our 2nd rounder on an impact Boundary speed threat WR2 that could change the complexion of our offense. There might be worthy OLine prospect avaialbe there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Holy hell @Mind Character are we just gonna pretend the salary cap ain’t a thing with that OL? 😂 At some point we need to have a young player on a rookie deal (or two or three). Maybe Forbes is one of those guys for next year. I think we’re at a point we need to draft a pair or OL as well, both a G and a T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Holy hell @Mind Character are we just gonna pretend the salary cap ain’t a thing with that OL? 😂 At some point we need to have a young player on a rookie deal (or two or three). Maybe Forbes is one of those guys for next year. I think we’re at a point we need to draft a pair or OL as well, both a G and a T. Lol. I don't trust Dorsey to draft OLineman. They're his blind spot as a scout. Dorsey thought giving two 5ths for Wyatt Teller was a good idea, and I sh*t you not in 2 starts here he's been a sad substantial magnitude worse than Eric Kush and is truly our worst OLineman. We defintely need to hit on draft picks but honestly I'd rather spend what money we have left on the OLine and leave the draft picks to fill in Safety, WR2, DE, and TE as those positions can be drafted and Dorsey and co. have some success with those. We definitely won't be willing to pay both Sherff and Castonzo what they'll get, but we can definitely pay 1. Bulaga tears his knee every few years or so and is a shell of his former self after 3 knee tears and hip surgeries. He might get some good money but it'll only be a true 2-year deal and won't have any cap ramifications after year 2. Conklin coming off a torn ACL and regression in his play is in the same boat. Sherff and Castonzo on the other hand are going to have huge cap consequences on their deals for year 3. 1 of Sherff or Castonzo. If Sherff, then Vaitai and Conklin. We can afford that. If Castonzo, then Glasgow and Conklin. We can afford that. Depending on Drew Forbes is meh. Baker's protection is all that matters at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Lol. I don't trust Dorsey to draft OLineman. They're his blind spot as a scout. I mean, the guy traded for Cam Erving. That’s really all I need to know. When it comes time to find some OL in the draft, Dorsey needs to sit that one out. Maybe delegate to... anyone, literally anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Mind Character said: RG over LT and RT though No. I'd rather get rid of Chris Hubbard. He is freaking atrocious in every aspect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 hours ago, candyman93 said: Offensive line should be ashamed of themselves. Look at :31 and the effort Nick Chubb runs with. How the F do you get stopped 8 times after that. Because we don't run the football up the middle with stubbornness. We have no identity in the red zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: No. I'd rather get rid of Chris Hubbard. He is freaking atrocious in every aspect. I never said he isn't bad nor did I mean to do nothing to upgrade Hubbard or Robinson. However, if I had to prioritize I'd choose the RG first then RT then LT. To me, it's been a wide margin regarding how much more troublesome for Baker interior pressure has been relative to outside pressure. The flushing right, turtle up sacks, double/triple clutches to reset because a DLineman is getting pushed in his lap, and/or deep balls having to be check down because Eric Kush or Wyatt Teller can't hold up. Baker needs a RG more than he needs a RT right now but we definitely need to upgrade all 3 spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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