rackcs Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, theuntouchable said: Yes and yes. Hard disagree and I have a hard time seeing you seeing it that way either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, theuntouchable said: The first post was was a few minutes after I first noticed. I was going over the OP to look at players I hadn’t seen yet. I couldn’t remember if I saw him or not so I went to his post history. He was viewing the thread. then I posted about how there was a few people hiding, each subsequent post is a continuation from that with him still in the thread. then when he gave his list, it was completely manufactured. He chose those names because they were naturally tied to an excuse. How long was he viewing the thread? 10 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour? There were a good number of other players "hiding" as you are stating here. you tagged almost 50% of the players, yet did not post any of the others that were hiding? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, squire12 said: You will often rip on Orca or Pickle for not voting each other on Day 1, No, I rip them for backing each other even when they’re obviously scum. See: Orca as scum 2 games ago and Pickle defending him. 1 minute ago, squire12 said: how is your stance with touch any different? I don’t vote him/Malf/SwAg/Dome day 1 as they’re IMO the best players, so rolling the dice on losing them as Town that early isn’t worth the risk IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dome said: I'm not sold it has to be a town move. If you're scum you want to play that card early IMO, I know that i wouldn't have played that card that early if I was town. I'd wait until it was getting close to a lynch I didn't like... yeah it might make you look like you're saving someone, but if this is your only move and you're trying to save a mislynch, it doesn't matter anyways. Playing it this early, especially with a good player like touch, is essentially a 1-shot vigilante. I think he's scum and wanted to get his civ-looking move out there asap. Picking an easy target like Llama doesn't get many second looks. Also, llama is town. So. I had the move a couple games ago and never used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, squire12 said: @theuntouchable This answer did not stand out to you? Not to me no, he knew what I was looking for and IMO intentionally avoided it because it’s the orca thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Not from my vantage point, as I read that more as a new player. I’ve also only seen duelist/gladiator as a town power though, and he killed scum squire in domes western game doing this. This is factual wrong on a couple fronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, rackcs said: Hard disagree and I have a hard time seeing you seeing it that way either Well, I do so there’s that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 It’s also Day 1 and a meme game so I’m still trying to read the landscape here. This is a unique game theme and llama is a new player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, squire12 said: This is factual wrong on a couple fronts You were scum in domes western game and he used the duel to defeat you. Fact I also didn’t read llama as scum based upon his answer and read llama more as a newbie. Fact Ive never seen duelist as a scum power. Fact (That doesn’t mean that it’s always that way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, theuntouchable said: The first post was was a few minutes after I first noticed. I was going over the OP to look at players I hadn’t seen yet. I couldn’t remember if I saw him or not so I went to his post history. He was viewing the thread. then I posted about how there was a few people hiding, each subsequent post is a continuation from that with him still in the thread. then when he gave his list, it was completely manufactured. He chose those names because they were naturally tied to an excuse. Was it you or Dome in the last two scum chats I was in (probably dome) that told me this was a cheap way to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Getting the call out for a lurker is a town move I feel like, almost too genuine in order to throw off the suspicion from touch. I’m sticking Llama right now, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: How long was he viewing the thread? 10 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour? There were a good number of other players "hiding" as you are stating here. you tagged almost 50% of the players, yet did not post any of the others that were hiding? Altogether I believe it was at least 20 minutes. I’m on my phone or id check the time stamps. It was roughly 5 minutes before that first post when I first saw it. Hadn’t gotten that far. Then I saw what I believe to be a scum response and jumped on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Also this game is much different from the first 2 yeesh. I had a hard time telling what exactly wasn’t just a meme and what was nothing game related for a bit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, theuntouchable said: Altogether I believe it was at least 20 minutes. I’m on my phone or id check the time stamps. It was roughly 5 minutes before that first post when I first saw it. Hadn’t gotten that far. Then I saw what I believe to be a scum response and jumped on it. I did check the same thing after I knew that was a thing. About a 15 minute interval still viewing with no response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: No, I rip them for backing each other even when they’re obviously scum. See: Orca as scum 2 games ago and Pickle defending him. So you are backing someone on Day 1 similar to how Orca and pickle will back each other on Day 1. I am not interested in a discussion beyond Day 1 for the current discussion. 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I don’t vote him/Malf/SwAg/Dome day 1 as they’re IMO the best players, so rolling the dice on losing them as Town that early isn’t worth the risk IMO. All the more reason for Touch to potentially use this on Day1. Can lead to an easy mis lynch and a way to have mafia easily slide past with votes with only 2 options....and as you are stating the case, "I won't vote Touch on day, he is too good for town to lose" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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