LeotheLion Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, rocky_rams said: I have Rodgers at 11 and would take Rodgers over Brees. That has nothing to do with us vs them. I think Brees is a great QB who’s one of the most accurate but falls short during big games This comes to what's more important: peak vs longevity. Rodgers had a better peak but I think if I'm ranking them I'd go Brees. His longevity makes up for it to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Bearerofnews said: If they arent reckless or inebriated, sure they are. A superiorly engineered vehicle that has top of the line mechinal functionality, handling, safety features. Youd have to be a moron to not drive well in a mercedes or tesla. Well then we drastically differ about how many morons we think are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomatic Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TheGame316 said: The debate has been how much does Payton have to do with Brees success.... Have you been paying attention to the last 5 pages? More than most people think. The Chargers acquired Philip Rivers in 2004 for a reason. Drew Brees was unimpressive during the first three seasons of his career, and though he played better in 2004 and 2005, the consensus when he left the Chargers was that he was a good QB, but nobody special. Enter Sean Payton, guru of offense, and Brees became a star, much like Dan Fouts did after Don Coryell arrived. In fact, Brees is basically Fouts with a ring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 hours ago, rocky_rams said: Those guys aren’t widely considered Top 10 of all time Yet Marino is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Yet Marino is. Read my latter posts. I said Young is. And Marino was shattering records in a physical, run-first era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, rocky_rams said: Those guys aren’t widely considered Top 10 of all time Those two (Rodgers and Young) ARE overrated. Drew Brees is not. Edited January 6, 2020 by Uncle Buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheGame316 said: Career? Brees, obviously... But the question is how much of that had to do with Payton? Brees had 3 mediocre years in San Diego, Then the Chargers drafted Rivers, then he had 1 GREAT year, then another nothing special year then he got hurt 5 years without Payton, 4 of them so/so then he had a major injury Payton who got fired in NYG after Fassel had to take over playcalling duties, and then in Dallas wasn't making Bledsoe look any better. Lucky Romo was on the roster, and Bledsoe played bad enough for Parcells to bench him. It's not like Payton is some genius above reproach. Brees has helped him as much as Payton has helped Brees. Edited January 6, 2020 by PapaShogun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Those two (Rodgers and Young) ARE overrated. Drew Brees is not. Young and Rodgers aren't overrated. In comparison to Brees especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Those two (Rodgers and Young) ARE overrated. Drew Brees is not. I respect your opinion but would you rather take Brees over Rodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, TheGame316 said: Lots of QB's bubble into the top 10. He's keeping company with Trent Green, Leftwich and Hasselbeck. Being "Top 10" in any given season is not a "Special Season". Compared to 04 he had regressed Trent Green and Hasselbeck were great QBs that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 hours ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: Sean Payton elevates Drew Brees while Rodgers elevated Mccarthey led teams and offenses. The dynamic is much different. I'd say it's just the opposite here. Sean Payton is the longest-tenured head coach in the league other than Bill Belichick. He has had the benefit of having a Hall of Fame quarterback and has only made it to one Super Bowl and he had to cheat to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, rocky_rams said: I respect your opinion but would you rather take Brees over Rodgers? Brees, without a doubt. Much better leader and team mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, DannyB said: ...What? No they aren't, that's dumb. Every woman in Huntington Beach looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Bearerofnews said: I dont know about great. He never broke 4000 yds as a Charger. 4000 yds passing is like 1000 yds rushing and we dont say rbs who had 800 yds were great. Montana never threw for 4000 yards as a 49er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LieutenantGains Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 He's really overrated on r/NFL where it seems most people put him from 1-5 on the GOAT list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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