EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Howie'ing the contract doesn't exist anymore. Why's that? Everything catching up with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: Why's that? Everything catching up with us? NFL changed rules regarding how you can spread out guarantee'd money/signing bonus. Edited March 18, 2020 by Jeezla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jeezla said: NFL changed rules regarding how you can spread out guarantee'd money/signing bonus. Oh ok. Then what's up with Hargrave's contract . Seen on Twitter its like 1 million or something base salary for this season. Forget the rest of the numbers Edited March 18, 2020 by EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: Oh ok. Then what's up with Hargraves contract . Seen on Twitter its like 1 million or something base salary for this season. Forget the rest of the numbers We also used to extend people after their 2nd season/during their 3rd, now you have to wait at least 3 full seasons iirc, so you can't get a jump on the inevitable inflation. Howie/Andy used to be very good at identifying players who were going to be good before they became good in their 3rd/4th season, and would sign them to mid-level deals before the pro bowl votes starting coming in. We draft like crap now, so it doesn't really matter, but we were getting guys like Trent Cole at huge discounts. I haven't seen the breakdown, and maybe NFL changed rules again. Edited March 18, 2020 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeezla said: We also used to extend people after their 2nd season/during their 3rd, now you have to wait at least 3 full seasons iirc, so you can't get a jump on the inevitable inflation. Howie/Andy used to be very good at identifying players who were going to be good before they became good in their 3rd/4th season, and would sign them to mid-level deals. I haven't seen the breakdown, and maybe NFL changed rules again. I'll see if I can find it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/javon-hargrave-19043/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/javon-hargrave-19043/ Yea, I don't know how it works. I think you subtract his total signing bonus from his base salary the first year, but I don't know why. Then that #, plus his workout bonus, plus his yearly portion of the total signing bonus adds up to his cap hit, which is just 5.16M this year. That's actually a classic Howie contract. We're really only on the books for him next year, then have an easy out if we don't want him year 3. But we will want him. I don't know who Hargraves agent is, but I hope we work with him more often. Edited March 18, 2020 by Jeezla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jeezla said: That's actually a classic Howie contract. That's what I thought. Didn't realize it was as complicated as you just explained though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 We got some serious cash on the books for 2021 between Hargrave (16.9M), Cox (22.4M), Wentz (34.6M), Ertz (12.7M), Brooks (14.5M), Lane (16.5M), B Rex (17.9M), and Malik Jackson (13.6M). Hopefully Trufant is down for a 1 year prove-it deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Malik Jackson is nearly a guarantee to not be here after this season according to Adam Caplan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Malik Jackson is nearly a guarantee to not be here after this season according to Adam Caplan. and also according to logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm6492 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Malik Jackson is nearly a guarantee to not be here after this season according to Adam Caplan. If he has a huge year, he will hold out and will get cut If he has a bad year, he will get cut Those are the 2 ways I see this ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: We just really need to sign Trufant, Mackensie Alexander, And either Ha Ha or Karl Joseph. Then we have to draft 3 WR's and 3 LB's. >Draft 3 LBs when we only ever put 2 on the field? Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Danger said: >Draft 3 LBs when we only ever put 2 on the field? Brilliant 2 LB's total with our training staff? Brilliant. Edited March 18, 2020 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeezla said: 2 minutes ago, Danger said: >Draft 3 LBs when we only ever put 2 on the field? Brilliant 2 LB's total with our training staff? Brilliant. I say we just get rid of the positions, go with a 5-0-6...but then again it's already hard to imagine Howie getting us to 4 solid starters back there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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