Elky Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2020 World Series booked. Since Tito, the only manager who failed to win a World Series in his first season was Bobby V, who we all knew was going to suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, marshawn lynch said: I mean of course... he was the mastermind of it all for the Astros. Then went to the Red Sox and did it with them even after being warned. He is looking at a lifetime ban If you believe Cora was the mastermind of the Astros, you’re a fool. Hinch threw that dude under the bus so fast it made my head spin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Glad the Red Sox moved on. Baseball managers aren’t crazy important so it’s not worth the head ache and distraction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Elky said: 2020 World Series booked. Since Tito, the only manager who failed to win a World Series in his first season was Bobby V, who we all knew was going to suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 rough week for Puerto Rico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 8 hours ago, MookieMonstah said: If you believe Cora was the mastermind of the Astros, you’re a fool. Hinch threw that dude under the bus so fast it made my head spin. This is based on...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: This is based on...? Lets break this down based on what you think happened. Step 1) Bench manager comes up with elaborate cheating scheme, buys all the materials needed and gets the entire organization on board. Step 2) Hinch, the manager, is distraught. He can't believe his fellow Astros employees are following the lead of the evil bench coach Alex Cora. Step 3) Hinch destroys equipment, begging everyone to stop the madness! "We're good honest men, we don't need to cheat to win!". Cora laughs in his face, Altuve spits on Hinch's shoe. Step 4) Hinch listens to players bang on trash cans to relay messages to batters even though he just can't stomach the fact. Step 5) Alex Cora leaves Astros. The evil elaborate scheme continues! Much to Hinchs dismay, but its too late...Nothing can be done even though the mastermind has left! Step 6) Astros get caught. Hinch cries. He tells them it was all Alex Cora! He just couldn't stop his rogue bench manager! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 hours ago, BayRaider said: Alex Cora should never have a job again. He was the mastermind of the entire thing. I’m sure Boston fans will just deny deny deny, accuse, accuse, accuse just like they do with the Patriots though. Hope Bellichick gets the same result for Spygate 2.0 (which is confirmed 100% to be Spygate 2.0, they just need to prove they did it all season). lol people believing Hinch about Cora being the mastermind is one of the funniest things I've seen on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MookieMonstah said: Lets break this down based on what you think happened. Step 1) Bench manager comes up with elaborate cheating scheme, buys all the materials needed and gets the entire organization on board. Step 2) Hinch, the manager, is distraught. He can't believe his fellow Astros employees are following the lead of the evil bench coach Alex Cora. Step 3) Hinch destroys equipment, begging everyone to stop the madness! "We're good honest men, we don't need to cheat to win!". Cora laughs in his face, Altuve spits on Hinch's shoe. Step 4) Hinch listens to players bang on trash cans to relay messages to batters even though he just can't stomach the fact. Step 5) Alex Cora leaves Astros. The evil elaborate scheme continues! Much to Hinchs dismay, but its too late...Nothing can be done even though the mastermind has left! Step 6) Astros get caught. Hinch cries. He tells them it was all Alex Cora! He just couldn't stop his rogue bench manager! It does sort of seem like the particular banging on trash cans thing was confined to 2017 though right? So maybe it did stop when Cora left, but the team continued todo other flea **** like whistling. Tbh I think Cora should get at least as long a suspension as Hinch obviously, given where MLB has already gone, but do hope he gets a chance to manage again in a year or two, because he is a very good manager and I think the sign stealing was much more wide spread than they’re making it out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, mission27 said: It does sort of seem like the particular banging on trash cans thing was confined to 2017 though right? So maybe it did stop when Cora left, but the team continued todo other flea **** like whistling. Tbh I think Cora should get at least as long a suspension as Hinch obviously, given where MLB has already gone, but do hope he gets a chance to manage again in a year or two, because he is a very good manager and I think the sign stealing was much more wide spread than they’re making it out to be. Cora should definitely be punished, and he was definitely apart of it in Houston. Its just funny that people are buying what Hinch is selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MookieMonstah said: Lets break this down based on what you think happened. Step 1) Bench manager comes up with elaborate cheating scheme, buys all the materials needed and gets the entire organization on board. Step 2) Hinch, the manager, is distraught. He can't believe his fellow Astros employees are following the lead of the evil bench coach Alex Cora. Step 3) Hinch destroys equipment, begging everyone to stop the madness! "We're good honest men, we don't need to cheat to win!". Cora laughs in his face, Altuve spits on Hinch's shoe. Step 4) Hinch listens to players bang on trash cans to relay messages to batters even though he just can't stomach the fact. Step 5) Alex Cora leaves Astros. The evil elaborate scheme continues! Much to Hinchs dismay, but its too late...Nothing can be done even though the mastermind has left! Step 6) Astros get caught. Hinch cries. He tells them it was all Alex Cora! He just couldn't stop his rogue bench manager! So was it all Master Sociopath AJ Hinch’s plot to frame Cora for cheating in Boston a year later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: So was it all Master Sociopath AJ Hinch’s plot to frame Cora for cheating in Boston a year later? No. Cora was 100% involved, no one has said otherwise. I'm laughing at the people who think Cora was the mastermind behind all of this and Hinch tried to stop it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, MookieMonstah said: No. Cora was 100% involved, no one has said otherwise. I'm laughing at the people who think Cora was the mastermind behind all of this and Hinch tried to stop it. Ok yeah that’s dumb lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Will Beltran get caught up in this? NY Post: - This all leaves the Mets in a tough spot. Beltran was with a different organization, in a different role and ultimately was not punished here by MLB. But he wasn’t punished because he was a player and MLB did not want that mess of trying to suspend players for a variety of reasons, including having a protracted fight with the union. But the report makes pretty clear by Beltran’s inclusion as the ONLY player mentioned that he was not just a bystander here. The Mets want to avoid joining Houston and Boston in looking for a manager at this late date. It is possible that Beltran will navigate this at a press gathering and everyone will buy some form of an explanation (see: Alex Rodriguez’s 2009 PED excuse) that 2017 was a “loosey-goosey” era when it came to using the new tech to decode signs and Beltran didn’t know he was cheating, simply thinking he was using what was at his disposal to do what he has always done: to try to get an edge by knowing what was coming. That will be nonsense because — like players with steroids — Houston was trying to hide what it was doing. The Astros knew this was illegal. Hinch broke two of the monitors used for cheating. He didn’t do this because it was loosey-goosey. Beltran knew what was being done was illegal. He and the Astros did it anyway. He cheated. He knew it. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Cora should get a lifetime ban tbh. There's also a "what a shock, the city of Boston cheated in pro sports" joke in there somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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