mse326 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, GSUeagles14 said: yes, but i included reasoning and some fact in there. so if jones gets hit and moves backwards, thats not arguable.... its what happened. Youve made something up in your head and thats literally it. no supporting argument, just heres what i think because its what i think. its insulting call them the same thing, and as bad as the judging was all night its still insulting to say theyre the same as well. It's also not arguable that Jones was kicking him in the body and legs. All that is different is how significant we view them. Him getting hit and moving back isn't arguable, but it doesn't say anything of intrinsic value. It only has the value you placed on it. What did I make up in my head exactly? I don't see how you can complain about opinion in a sport that judged based on opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bearerofnews said: I went by how i truly believe judges score takedowns and how its been dicussed in the past. If someone can show me otherwise or that judges use discretion on what they consider a worthy takedown.. then i 100% believe ever judge in MMA scores a takedown as a takedown... regardless what happens after the takedown. What happens after is only grounds for more point distribution and not takedown validation. What you are saying doesnt even make sense. That judges have discretionary leeway to discredit a takedown.. by the simple, clear and concise definition of what a takedown is... if they somehow feel the proceed action wasn't significant enough? Tell me in your conscious mind that makes sense youre clearly trying to move the goal posts. a little tough to decipher everything youre saying/asking but ill give it my best shot. Yes, judges view things differently, there no rules that say a takedown is worth x or y. SO in the realm of a 5 minute round if a guy gets someone to the ground for 5 seconds that may matter to one judge but not another, the proof of that is in the hundreds of fights we have in the books. if you absolutely need it, ill give you a few fughts in the morning that show variance between judges but again...we see proof of this almost every month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, mse326 said: It's also not arguable that Jones was kicking him in the body and legs. All that is different is how significant we view them. Him getting hit and moving back isn't arguable, but it doesn't say anything of intrinsic value. It only has the value you placed on it. What did I make up in my head exactly? I don't see how you can complain about opinion in a sport that judged based on opinion. youre original point of them undercounting strikes. youve shown nothing towards that. Can you actually produce something or are we done? cause this is a waste of time until you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, GSUeagles14 said: youre original point of them undercounting strikes. youve shown nothing towards that. Can you actually produce something or are we done? cause this is a waste of time until you can. I said significant strikes. A no I can't post the entire fight for you because it's illegal. Is strikes all you can produce that is objective? Because if so you are deliberately leaving out other parts of the judging criteria. This isn't hard to understand. The sport is a subjectively judged sport. I mean you are so twisted up about this you are arguing with someone who disagrees with the judges but can see that it's close. There are only a handful of people that have said it wasn't close. You are the one in the minority here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just now, mse326 said: I said significant strikes. A no I can't post the entire fight for you because it's illegal. Is strikes all you can produce that is objective? Because if so you are deliberately leaving out other parts of the judging criteria. This isn't hard to understand. The sport is a subjectively judged sport. I mean you are so twisted up about this you are arguing with someone who disagrees with the judges but can see that it's close. There are only a handful of people that have said it wasn't close. You are the one in the minority here. is a significant strike not still a strike? Youre right, im focused on you making up something completely in your head and then arguing it as essentially fact. not getting past that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, GSUeagles14 said: is a significant strike not still a strike? Youre right, im focused on you making up something completely in your head and then arguing it as essentially fact. not getting past that one. A significant strike is a component of total strikes. They undercount the significant part, imo. Still haven't said how I've made something up. Believing that there are leg and body strikes that should count as significant that are not counted as such is actually a pretty common belief. Also haven't said how opinion is a problem in a sport judged based on a opinion. I'm done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensDefense3 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 dana scored it for reyes and i am shocked. thought he would side with his money maker for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bearerofnews said: I think Reyes deserves a rematch. He gassed out and that was his undoing.. I'm not sure what more Reyes can do, to be honest. Don't see any areas he can play differently in a rematch that would have him win it. I'd rather see a Thiago Santos rematch when he's healthy, since there's a question mark over how he would have done if he didn't blow his knee out. But it's probably most likely to be the winner of Jan vs Corey next, which would be pretty uninteresting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 10-9 Rounds 1 & 2 for Reyes, didn't expect him to win 1 let alone the first 2. I'm impressed. I know Reyes might gas but he just needs 1 more and then to survive. The first 2 weren't THAT close Round 3 was close but I'd give it to Dom too. The announcers are slurping Jones but I think he's down 3-0. Cant save yourself for the championship rounds unless you're going to finish him. Really thought Bones had that TD I. dont like Bones nor do I like Dom but geez they are slurping Bones something fierce. Round 4 probably goes to Bones but is it too late? Still shocked Bones cant get a TD with all those attempts(yea he got 1 but he got up so easily) DC couldn't stop those They keep saying Jones is doing this and that to win round 5 but unless he gets a 10-8 or a finish Reyes should win. "Jones is the fresher fighter..." well yea he hardly did anything for 3 rounds Dom shut up Has to be 48-47 for Reyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Wow, I'm simply blown away. 48-47 for Bones sure that fine but where the hell did he win 4 rounds? He clearly lost 1 & 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 hours ago, I <3 Faulk said: Did you do all caps to simulate yelling so Matt Hamill could hear it? I applaud you if so. I liked it but I still feel bad about it but I laughed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 10 hours ago, BullsandBroncos said: Here to remind you all the JONNY JONES HAS NEVA LOST I dont like him but I do think that L on his record is a joke. He was murdering Hamill before those illegal strikes. Should've been a NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, mse326 said: Is there any accent worse than the kiwi accent? Lol, that dude looks exactly like Hunt too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Lewis looks WAY bigger than Latifi like 40-50 pounds more That flying knee by Lewis..I didn't know Elephants could jump Those switch kicks are impressive for a man that big It was close because of all the time on the ground...not busy time but the ref let it happen. Latifi needs to go back to 205 Latifi is not human. Took some massive shots and didn't crumble Edited February 9, 2020 by JaguarCrazy2832 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, BullsandBroncos said: I think she could. She doesn't look emanciated at 135 and women naturally carry more body fat than men. I think it's doable. Its doable but why would the GOAT cut to a weight she's never fought at? If Bullet wants her she should fight at BW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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