Mossburg Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Jones not really adding to his legacy the last 2 fights. While I would say those 2 fights were really close, I can't say for sure that Jones won either of them. Not really sure what the deal is. Some people hated GSP when he went from killer to top control guy to play it more safe, but at least he still dominated his opponents. The odd thing with Jones is he had decisive wins vs DC (before the NC) and Gustafsson, two dudes I think most would agree are his toughest opponents, but looks very iffy when you expect him to do more against lesser dudes. Mostly looks like he's trying to work more on his hands, his wrestling seems to have taken a back seat and barely a part of anything he does. I dunno WTF is going on, but these performances are way too lackluster for a guy the UFC is trying hard to push into Michael Jordan status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It’s entirely possible IMO Jones has gotten so bored with his usual dominant combination of wrestling/dirty boxing he has purposely stepped out of his comfort zone and gone with more of a classic boxing/stand up style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I will say though, I do think these “less dominant” performances may hurt his overall GOAT standing. Seeing his performance in the stand up game, and strictly speaking in a P4P setting, I honestly think Anderson Silva and GSP are right with him instead of him being a clear GOAT. Silva would land clean on Jones at will IMO and his TDD was very good, and GSPs jab and wrestling would create problems as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: It’s entirely possible IMO Jones has gotten so bored with his usual dominant combination of wrestling/dirty boxing he has purposely stepped out of his comfort zone and gone with more of a classic boxing/stand up style. Could also be a change in... supplements. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, JonStark said: Could also be a change in... supplements. I was thinking the same thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuy82 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I had Jones winning 3,4 and 5. Both fighters definitively won 2 rounds imo. Reyes will learn to conserve energy the more he fights 5 round fights, he gassed out and Jones took over the fight Reyes/Santos would be a entertaining fight to make. Maybe for interim LHW strap if Jones goes to HW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuy82 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: I will say though, I do think these “less dominant” performances may hurt his overall GOAT standing. Seeing his performance in the stand up game, and strictly speaking in a P4P setting, I honestly think Anderson Silva and GSP are right with him instead of him being a clear GOAT. Silva would land clean on Jones at will IMO and his TDD was very good, and GSPs jab and wrestling would create problems as well. It's GSP/Jones for me. If Khabib beats Ferguson clean he gets a claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 hours ago, JonStark said: Could also be a change in... supplements. I honestly didn’t even think of that but it’s a great point.....ever since he was caught a second time, he hasn’t looked nearly as dominant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 hours ago, BillsGuy82 said: It's GSP/Jones for me. If Khabib beats Ferguson clean he gets a claim. I think Khabib still needs to stretch his reign out for another year or 2, but he’s getting right up there I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 22 hours ago, Mossburg said: Jones not really adding to his legacy the last 2 fights. While I would say those 2 fights were really close, I can't say for sure that Jones won either of them. Not really sure what the deal is. Some people hated GSP when he went from killer to top control guy to play it more safe, but at least he still dominated his opponents. The odd thing with Jones is he had decisive wins vs DC (before the NC) and Gustafsson, two dudes I think most would agree are his toughest opponents, but looks very iffy when you expect him to do more against lesser dudes. Mostly looks like he's trying to work more on his hands, his wrestling seems to have taken a back seat and barely a part of anything he does. I dunno WTF is going on, but these performances are way too lackluster for a guy the UFC is trying hard to push into Michael Jordan status. Feel like he doesn't really have the fire anymore. He probably did with Cormier/Gustafsson due to the history with both those fights, which is why he finished both. But I don't think he really has the motivation to come out and crush all these new guys at LHW. The hardest part about having a title streak like GSP, Mighty Mouse or Jones isn't skill-wise, isn't physical, it's mental. Very few guys will have the same motivation they have for their first title fight as for their 14th. Of course he could also be struggling now because he's clean for the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If I had a nickel for every Jon Jones drug joke, I'd be richer than Warren Buffet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 My Mount Rushmore is Jon, GSP, Anderson, Mighty Mouse. Chuck just missed because of all the late career crap he keeps doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Kansas Commission looking into real-time MMA scoring? That would be pretty awesome https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28673921/kansas-experiment-option-real-scoring-mma-fights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Kansas Commission looking into real-time MMA scoring? That would be pretty awesome https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28673921/kansas-experiment-option-real-scoring-mma-fights I wouldn’t be a fan. If they win the first two rounds, they’d just get out their bike for the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Kansas Commission looking into real-time MMA scoring? That would be pretty awesome https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28673921/kansas-experiment-option-real-scoring-mma-fights Open scoring is terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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