Golfman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: He was really good last year. He's not going to sign a Lewis type of deal. You'll be talking 5 million would be my guess. Sullivan, Hollman and Jackson need to step up. If I'm the GM I can't do it, but look at what Jenkins got from NOLA. Edited March 19, 2020 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Golfman said: He's not going to sign a Lewis type of deal. You'll be talking 5 million would be my guess. Sullivan, Hollman and Jackson need to step up. Agreed. We should've moved on from him before last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Golfman said: He's not going to sign a Lewis type of deal. You'll be talking 5 million would be my guess. Sullivan, Hollman and Jackson need to step up. We had 6 DBs on the field for 52% of snaps last year. You need 6 DBs before you start accounting for injury. Tramon and Sullivan play together. Jackson is probably a bust, and Hollman likely isn't anything better. Tramon at 1/5 is great value. Have you seen these contracts this year??? Edited March 19, 2020 by AlexGreen#20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We had 6 DBs on the field for 52% of snaps last year. You need 6 DBs before you start accounting for injury. Tramon and Sullivan play together. Jackson is probably a bust, and Hollman likely isn't anything better. I see the point in doing it but he's going to be 37. If one is of the ilk to go all in this year, he makes sense. I can't rationalize 2.5% of my cap on a 37 year old DB. Edited March 19, 2020 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We had 6 DBs on the field for 52% of snaps last year. You need 6 DBs before you start accounting for injury. Tramon and Sullivan play together. Jackson is probably a bust, and Hollman likely isn't anything better. Tramon at 1/5 is great value. Have you seen these contracts this year??? I mean Alexander just signed 1/4 for Cincy. You should be able to get Tramon for about 1/3.5. He played well last year but he's also like 45 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We had 6 DBs on the field for 52% of snaps last year. You need 6 DBs before you start accounting for injury. Tramon and Sullivan play together. Jackson is probably a bust, and Hollman likely isn't anything better. Tramon at 1/5 is great value. Have you seen these contracts this year??? dude was a rookie last year and a later round pick. Not sure you can write him off so easily. Jackson's a 2nd round pick who had two years now and has hardly played; we can say he's a bust at this point; trade him if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I could see Tramon getting anywhere from 2-5. High end of 5 if he has outside bidders, low end of 2 if he just wants to play and doesn't want a new environment/pain of moving etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonKarman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Apparently we are interested in Ngakoue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, VonKarman said: Apparently we are being used in Ngakoue negotiations Seems more likley 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 If we trade for Ngakoue it better be a straight up Gary or Preston for Ngakoue trade. Otherwise that would be the epitome of overkill at EDGE, underkill elsewhere. I cannot fathom the stupidity of having three premier EDGE players plus a top 15 pick. Unless we’re planning on Gary playing purely IDL and gaining some weight, that would be near the top of my least favorite offseason moves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fistfullofbeer Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Outpost31 said: If we trade for Ngakoue it better be a straight up Gary or Preston for Ngakoue trade. Otherwise that would be the epitome of overkill at EDGE, underkill elsewhere. I cannot fathom the stupidity of having three premier EDGE players plus a top 15 pick. Unless we’re planning on Gary playing purely IDL and gaining some weight, that would be near the top of my least favorite offseason moves. I hadn't given much thought about the assets we would need to spend but won't the cap itself be prohibitive? And yeah, why get another premier DE when we have more important holes to fill in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenrik Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Golfman said: 1. I thought they only gave out 32 comp picks? After cancellations Fackrell is on the bubble of us getting one. 2. No chance on Goodson unless the Giants have him 3.5 million more than he's worth. I'd say we have 2 right now and a 4th and 5th seems right. Fackrell will easily get us a compensatory pick at 4.6 million. For the 2020 draft 4 million seemed to be the cutoff for a 6th round pick. Goodson is still up in the air until the contract details are released. The last compensatory pick that was awarded for 2020 was at 1.3 million apy. https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ Edited March 19, 2020 by Kenrik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenrik Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Golfman said: 1. I thought they only gave out 32 comp picks? After cancellations Fackrell is on the bubble of us getting one. 2. No chance on Goodson unless the Giants have him 3.5 million more than he's worth. I'd say we have 2 right now and a 4th and 5th seems right. There was 33 compensatory picks eligible last year with only 1 not making the cut. 2020 Compensatory Picks Explanation | Basics & Methodology | Cancellation Chart Team Round Compensated Free Agent APY HOU* 3 Tyrann Mathieu $14,000,000 NE 3 Trey Flowers $18,000,000 NYG 3 Landon Collins $14,000,000 NE 3 Trent Brown $16,250,000 SEA 3 Earl Thomas $13,750,000 PIT 3 Le'Veon Bell $13,125,000 PHI 3 Nick Foles $21,500,000 LAR 3 Rodger Saffold $11,000,000 MIN 3 Sheldon Richardson $11,933,333 BAL 3 C.J. Mosley $17,000,000 TB 4 Kwon Alexander $13,050,000 CHI* 4 Adrian Amos $9,000,000 MIA 4 Ja'Wuan James $12,750,000 WAS 4 Jamison Crowder $9,500,000 BAL* 4 John Brown $9,000,000 SEA 4 Justin Coleman $9,000,000 PHI 4 Jordan Hicks $8,500,000 PHI 4 Golden Tate $9,350,000 DEN 5 Billy Turner $6,650,000 DAL 5 Cole Beasley $7,050,000 NE 6 Malcom Brown $4,933,333 NE 6 Cordarrelle Patterson $5,000,000 SEA 6 Shamar Stephen $4,050,000 NYG 7 Mario Edwards Jr. $2,300,000 HOU 7 Kendall Lamm $2,225,000 MIN 7 Trevor Siemian $2,000,000 HOU 7 Christian Covington $1,750,000 MIA 7 Brandon Bolden $1,850,000 DEN 7 Max Garcia $1,796,875 MIN 7 Tom Compton $1,600,000 DEN 7 Tramaine Brock $1,337,500 NYG 7 Josh Mauro $1,300,000 Compensation over 32-pick limit; not awarded NYG 7 Kerry Wynn $1,212,500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenrik Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Projections right now. 2021 Projected Compensatory Picks Explanation | Basics & Methodology | Cancellation Chart Team Round Compensated Free Agent APY NE 3 Tom Brady $30,000,000 NO 3 Teddy Bridgewater $21,000,000 DAL 3 Byron Jones $16,500,000 LAR 3 Dante Fowler Jr. $16,000,000 TEN 3 Jack Conklin $14,000,000 DAL 3 Robert Quinn $14,000,000 MIN 3 Trae Waynes $14,000,000 PIT 4 Javon Hargrave $13,000,000 NE 4 Kyle Van Noy $12,750,000 LAR 4 Cory Littleton $11,750,000 CAR 4 Mario Addison $10,133,333 KC 4 Kendall Fuller $10,000,000 NE 4 Jamie Collins $10,000,000 GB 4 Blake Martinez $10,000,000 GB 5 Bryan Bulaga $10,000,000 ATL 5 Vic Beasley $9,500,000 DAL 5 Randall Cobb $9,000,000 ATL 5 De'Vondre Campbell $8,500,000 KC 5 Emmanuel Ogbah $7,500,000 NO 6 A.J. Klein $6,000,000 PIT 6 Sean Davis $5,000,000 CHI 6 Nicholas Williams $5,000,000 PHI 6 Jordan Howard $5,000,000 GB 6 Kyler Fackrell $4,600,000 ATL 6 Wes Schweitzer $4,500,000 PIT 6 Tyler Matakevich $4,500,000 CHI 6 Chase Daniel $4,350,000 MIN 6 Mackensie Alexander $4,000,000 DAL 6 Jeff Heath $4,000,000 TB 6 Beau Allen $4,000,000 NE 6 Danny Shelton $4,000,000 CHI 6 Kevin Pierre-Louis $3,450,000 Compensation over 32-pick limit; not awarded PHI 7 Kamu Grugier-Hill $3,000,000 MIN 7 Jayron Kearse $2,750,000 NO ? Eli Apple TBA BAL ? Seth Roberts TBA GB ? B.J. Goodson TBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Was really hoping Gute would do something while we were still on page 69. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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