mistakey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: People are coming here for NFL news and opinions and we aren’t affiliated in any way with the NFL. Guess Webby should shut the site down now. this is quite possibly the only topic this forum has ever discussed that has ever mattered in any way whatsoever and a contingent here want to treat it with less scrutiny then nfl power rankings cmon man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, mistakey said: this is quite possibly the only topic this forum has ever discussed that has ever mattered in any way whatsoever and a contingent here want to treat it with less scrutiny then nfl power rankings cmon man One of the mods for this forum already posted saying that any medical advice should only be posted through CDC/WHO sources. I believe it was @mission27 who said when he first started to track this that he had a background in stats/numbers, and it was an attempt to do his own model to see how it would compare to others. This is not some super serious thing. There are plenty of other models out there, but I, or any other mod, can't force you to go look for them. I can't force you to look at theirs, either. Medical issues are already covered by another moderator in this forum, so we should be good to go. Yet you still have an issue. No one is forcing you to come in and read their work. It's something they are doing to pass the time for them and for us. If someone is taking it seriously, well, that's on them. We don't go around locking every rumor that doesn't turn into a confirmed news story. It just seems that you are mad that you don't know what they are doing. It reminds of the casini episode from The League, where no one tells Ruxin what the counting game is, and he gets the casino pit floor boss to confront them to learn what the code is, and they instead had the pit boss throw them out. You're now calling on the mods to censor an opinion, which doesn't break any of the rules. It's not going to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: One of the mods for this forum already posted saying that any medical advice should only be posted through CDC/WHO sources. I believe it was @mission27 who said when he first started to track this that he had a background in stats/numbers, and it was an attempt to do his own model to see how it would compare to others. This is not some super serious thing. There are plenty of other models out there, but I, or any other mod, can't force you to go look for them. I can't force you to look at theirs, either. Medical issues are already covered by another moderator in this forum, so we should be good to go. Yet you still have an issue. No one is forcing you to come in and read their work. It's something they are doing to pass the time for them and for us. If someone is taking it seriously, well, that's on them. We don't go around locking every rumor that doesn't turn into a confirmed news story. It just seems that you are mad that you don't know what they are doing. It reminds of the casini episode from The League, where no one tells Ruxin what the counting game is, and he gets the casino pit floor boss to confront them to learn what the code is, and they instead had the pit boss throw them out. na, im mad cause ya'll are in a power to stop people from misleading people and you're doin nothing. i literally do not care what they are doing (from a personal standpoint), again i think its worthless -especially without defense of any methodology Edited April 14, 2020 by mistakey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, mistakey said: na, im mad cause ya'll are in a power to stop people from misleading people and you're doin nothing. i literally do not care what they are doing (from a personal standpoint), again i think its worthless -especially without defense of any methodology We did that. No posting medical advice unless it’s from official sources. This isn’t medical advice or being meant in any way to advise people on anything. and as others have said, if people are taking advice on Coronavirus from a football forum, there isn’t much we can do to help them otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, naptownskinsfan said: We did that. No posting medical advice unless it’s from official sources. This isn’t medical advice or being meant in any way to advise people on anything. and as others have said, if people are taking advice on Coronavirus from a football forum, there isn’t much we can do to help them otherwise. @mission27 can you please add a disclaimer that your rankings are for entertainment purposes only so we can stop talking about it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: @mission27 can you please add a disclaimer that your rankings are for entertainment purposes only so we can stop talking about it. Good solution, thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: One of the mods for this forum already posted saying that any medical advice should only be posted through CDC/WHO sources. I believe it was @mission27 who said when he first started to track this that he had a background in stats/numbers, and it was an attempt to do his own model to see how it would compare to others. This is not some super serious thing. There are plenty of other models out there, but I, or any other mod, can't force you to go look for them. I can't force you to look at theirs, either. Medical issues are already covered by another moderator in this forum, so we should be good to go. Yet you still have an issue. No one is forcing you to come in and read their work. It's something they are doing to pass the time for them and for us. If someone is taking it seriously, well, that's on them. We don't go around locking every rumor that doesn't turn into a confirmed news story. It just seems that you are mad that you don't know what they are doing. It reminds of the casini episode from The League, where no one tells Ruxin what the counting game is, and he gets the casino pit floor boss to confront them to learn what the code is, and they instead had the pit boss throw them out. You're now calling on the mods to censor an opinion, which doesn't break any of the rules. It's not going to happen. na, actually i called for mods/leaders to push back for rigor, but in the absence of anyone tolerating that (which still blows my mind) or @ramssuperbowl99 pretty decent compromise solution, yeah you probably should stop it if its the last resort, especially if the forum gains a reputation for these said rankings which webmaster could deem "bad for business" in rule #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: @mission27 can you please add a disclaimer that your rankings are for entertainment purposes only so we can stop talking about it. 2 minutes ago, theJ said: Good solution, thank you. If you want to call it entertainment that's one way to look at it. I prefer to look at it as we are providing our opinion on the state of the outbreak in a useful format. If people choose to follow what we are saying because they find it informative and it is laid out in a helpful format, ok. If not fine. Personally I've heard from a lot of people that it is helpful and don't want folks to think we are making a joke out of it. However nothing we post should construed as advice, medical or otherwise. I'd be happy to add a disclaimer to the effect of "These rankings represent the opinion of the MoL informed by our model and have not been vetted by any academic community, government body, the WHO, or CDC. They should not be taken as advice, medical or otherwise, and are purely meant to be entertaining and informative." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, mistakey said: na, actually i called for mods/leaders to push back for rigor, but in the absence of anyone tolerating that (which still blows my mind) or @ramssuperbowl99 pretty decent compromise solution, yeah you probably should stop it if its the last resort, especially if the forum gains a reputation for these said rankings which webmaster could deem "bad for business" in rule #8. Come on man, we are providing an opinion Does every opinion in this thread need to be subjected to 'academic rigor' You're being hard headed and you're going to ruin this thread for everybody. Please drop it. Nobody else has a problem here 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, mission27 said: Come on man, we are providing an opinion Does every opinion in this thread need to be subjected to 'academic rigor' You're being hard headed and you're going to ruin this thread for everybody. Please drop it. Nobody else has a problem here well @SlevinKelevra also has a problem here, so one thats wrong and no, not every opinion in this thread needs to be subjected to academic rigor- only posts that claim to provide pseudo-research of their own making. dont be obtuse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I'm now spending my workday haggling over the disclaimer wording in a meme ranking post that I had historically ignored. What the hell am I doing with my life. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, ramssuperbowl99 said: I'm now spending my workday haggling over the disclaimer wording in a meme ranking post that I had historically ignored. What the hell am I doing with my life. thats on u for assuming its a meme ranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, mistakey said: well @SlevinKelevra also has a problem here, so one thats wrong and no, not every opinion in this thread needs to be subjected to academic rigor- only posts that claim to provide pseudo-research of their own making. dont be obtuse. Slevin is peeved we didn't build an SIR model in R and subject it to peer review before posting a set of coronavirus 'power rankings' to a football message board that are literally prefaced by a daily quote from Taylor Swift and a picture of a goat. Are we really having this conversation? You and Slevin are the only ones suggesting the MoL is some kind of academic research. Its our opinions. It is not 'research' nor have we ever claimed that. Its not advice. We are taking a few numbers, adding them together, dividing by another number, and adding some fancy colors. We find it helpful and encouraging and many posters on this forum do too. But don't blow this out of proportion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, mission27 said: Slevin is peeved we didn't build an SIR model in R and subject it to peer review before posting a set of coronavirus 'power rankings' to a football message board that are literally prefaced by a daily quote from Taylor Swift and a picture of a goat. Are we really having this conversation? You and Slevin are the only ones suggesting the MoL is some kind of academic research. Its our opinions. It is not 'research' nor have we ever claimed that. Its not advice. We are taking a few numbers, adding them together, dividing by another number, and adding some fancy colors. We find it helpful and encouraging and many posters on this forum do too. But don't blow this out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mission27 said: Slevin is peeved we didn't build an SIR model in R and subject it to peer review before posting a set of coronavirus 'power rankings' to a football message board that are literally prefaced by a daily quote from Taylor Swift and a picture of a goat. Are we really having this conversation? You and Slevin are the only ones suggesting the MoL is some kind of academic research. Its our opinions. It is not 'research' nor have we ever claimed that. Its not advice. We are taking a few numbers, adding them together, dividing by another number, and adding some fancy colors. We find it helpful and encouraging and many posters on this forum do too. But don't blow this out of proportion. you literally said yesterday you send it to Wall Street buddies. MAybe you were just saying that for provocation, but if anyone (as idiotic as it would be) is moving the stock market because of this inane crap, then you're responsible for it. you REALLY need to learn how to keep your lies and arguments straight. Edited April 14, 2020 by SlevinKelevra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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