whitehops Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 i think we have three of the last 12 picks of the draft... perfect time to snag those priority free agents before they become free agents. happy with the draft so far, stoked for tomorrow! should be a ton of action. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, RpMc said: He's had no problem doing that in the past (see, multiple trades up into the first round) it was a joke. it seemed like he had sufficient ammo to move up to get a better guy they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, CriminalMind said: it was a joke. it seemed like he had sufficient ammo to move up to get a better guy they wanted. Fair, the other team has to agree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: This is just insane. Maybe three make the team. Two are converted into future picks and the rest never heard from again. With no offseason work, what’s the likelihood of a late round pick sticking around long enough to take a spot from a vet? Still get a practice squad. Additionally, with the lack of time teams have had with players this year, UDFAs are going to be harder to gauge and the competition for the good ones will be more fierce. Now we can draft them. Love it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joru1000 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) I agree with vikingsrule. This is literally the worst possible year in the history of the NFL draft to be dicking around with day 3 draft picks. There's absolutely no telling how stunted this offseason will be, and as far as I know, the roster cuts are still working the same as ever. Where and how, exactly, are all of these day 3 picks we're trying to compile going to develop? There may be no OTAs, and possibly lost mini-camp. I'd be surprised if 50% make the roster seeing as we're already at 58 active. Edited April 25, 2020 by joru1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, joru1000 said: I agree with vikingsrule. This is literally the worst possible year in the history of the NFL draft to be dicking around with day 3 draft picks. There's absolutely no telling how stunted this offseason will be, and as far as I know, the roster cuts are still working the same as ever. Where and how, exactly, are all of these day 3 picks we're trying to compile going to develop? There may be no OTAs, and possibly lost mini-camp. I'd be surprised if 50% make the roster seeing as we're already at 58 active. Of the 58 active 11 of them dont have a single year of NFL service, so let’s not pretend like our roster is so set in stone that there’s no room for competition. its not going to be a typical offseason with the normal cut down dates if teams aren’t actually able to get the players in front of them. again, many of these picks could be used to move around the draft board tomorrow, traded for 2021 picks, OR be used on guys we liked as UDFA. Truly, even if we make every pick and end up with 17 draft picks, our draft class tends to be around 20+ players when you lump in the UDFAs. Does it matter if that 20 is 17 picks + 3 free agents or 10 and 10? No, it doesn’t. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, joru1000 said: I agree with vikingsrule. This is literally the worst possible year in the history of the NFL draft to be dicking around with day 3 draft picks. There's absolutely no telling how stunted this offseason will be, and as far as I know, the roster cuts are still working the same as ever. Where and how, exactly, are all of these day 3 picks we're trying to compile going to develop? There may be no OTAs, and possibly lost mini-camp. I'd be surprised if 50% make the roster seeing as we're already at 58 active. I was thinking the same thing. It's like the strike-shortened year back in the 80's. Who won the Super Bowl that year? The San Francisco 49ers - a team that was well established with veteran players who were used to working together. People always like to talk about how Jerry Rice broke the record for most TD's in a season during a short year, but I always thought that was an advantage for him because he was playing for a team that was well run, comprised of veteran players who already knew their system, and were able to adjust to the very short offseason. I could be wrong, but trying to get a ton of late-round picks and hoping to make chicken salad out of a group like that in these conditions conjures up images from the movie "Invincible" where Eagles head coach **** Vermeil has a tryout where he invites players tons of players in from off the street to come in and see if they can make the team. It looked like complete chaos. It wouldn't surprise me if the Patriots won it all again in 2020 for this reason - even without the GOAT at QB. Still, I admit that I'm a total amateur when it comes to running/coaching a team, so my opinion and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee. I'll just trust that our guys know what they are doing and have a plan that we can't all envision right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, joru1000 said: I agree with vikingsrule. This is literally the worst possible year in the history of the NFL draft to be dicking around with day 3 draft picks. There's absolutely no telling how stunted this offseason will be, and as far as I know, the roster cuts are still working the same as ever. Where and how, exactly, are all of these day 3 picks we're trying to compile going to develop? There may be no OTAs, and possibly lost mini-camp. I'd be surprised if 50% make the roster. Fair points. However, to the comment about roster cuts being the same as ever, now seems like a good time to remind everyone that the roster cuts aren't quite the same going forward as they have been previously. Teams can now keep 67 players throughout the season: 55 on the active roster and 12 on the practice squad. That is an increase of four players. So, if Rick used to want 10 picks to try and make, say 8, roster spots on his team it makes a bit of sense with 4 more roster spots that he may want 15 picks dedicated to 12 roster spots on the team. That is 80% of draft picks making the roster. On the other hand, should the extra four spots all be dedicated to rookies? As with previous roster expansions in the league I expect it to lead to more specialization. I also think we'll see more teams going back to keeping three QBs instead of the 2 QBs on the roster that was becoming somewhat more common. Of course, in the first year of the increased roster size the incoming class may be more likely to fill all four additional spots than in future years where they'll have those four extra second year players competing for a spot as well as the rookies. In addition to QB, I would use one of the extra roster spots on an offensive linemen given the increased time it takes to get college kids ready for the pro game nowadays owing to the decreased offseason schedule that came with the last CBA. What other specialized roles might a team dream up to use the extra game day spot for? Specialized run play linemen and pass play linemen for downs where it was already obvious? The defense already does this but will that come to the offense? Kickoff specialists that can hang it high and drop it at the five yard line reliably? I have no idea, but it will be interesting. Increasing rosters has always seemed to increase specialization. Back when it was 40 for 60 teams didn't often have dedicated long snappers. The most immediate impact may be keeping 4 extra rookies, which is more space for draft picks to make the team. That is a difference in how roster cuts will happen. They won't need to cut as deep. Edited April 25, 2020 by Cearbhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Still, I admit that I'm a total amateur when it comes to running/coaching a team, so my opinion and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee. Wait. Where can you get a cup of coffee for a dollar anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Tomorrow should be fun. No less than 3 picks in each round. Instead of UDFA's we can just draft them so other teams don't get any of the players we like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Going to apologize in advance for not being able to keep up with thread creation tomorrow 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: Wait. Where can you get a cup of coffee for a dollar anymore? Well hey, my opinion is worth a little extra over and above that dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byuvike88 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 For everyone requesting Spielman to be fired for not trading up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 MAD-aye-boo-kay 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, byuvike88 said: For everyone requesting Spielman to be fired for not trading up Draft trades, or lack of trades, has nothing to do with why I want Spielman fired but there were trading partners if Spielman wanted to trade up. To debunk the lack of trading partner myth: Patriots traded up for pick 101. Patriots traded up for pick 91. Lions traded up for pick 75. Saints traded up for pick 74. We know for sure that there were at least four teams willing to trade back. Does anyone think that the Saints pick 88 and '21 third a more attractive package than if the Vikings offered 89 and their '21 third? If the Jets would trade with the Patriots, a division rival, does anyone doubt that they would have been willing to do a deal with the Vikings for similar value? Edited April 25, 2020 by Cearbhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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