NCOUGHMAN Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, SimonGruber said: I’m wishy washy on Carr I think he played his best last year better than 2016. Meh if he didn’t have that atl game I’d agree imo as a vet / semi franchise player that should never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: You're right, it's everyone but Carr's fault. He's the best quarterback in NFL history. Yea because that’s what I said 👍🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: It’s just different standards some teams aren’t ok with not winning Super Bowls and aren’t impressed with just making it to the playoffs then there’s us. We’re ok with going 500. We’re ok with carr taking a crap on himself in pivotal games. We spend all our money on offense then blame the defense. Even tho that backnblack poster showed specifically how carr and the offenses mistakes made the defense look much worse. And without it the defense would be more middle of the pack. *crickets* that 408 dude even exposed Carr’s best year 2016 as fraudulent *crickets* I exposed how Carr’s comeback victory trophies are also suspect It’s just different levels Nonsense you talk about standards but **** on Carr and try to pump up the defense. How does that even make sense? If Carr was the issue we’d have replaced him, yet, we’ve dumped a bunch of assets on the defense for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Geezy said: Nonsense you talk about standards but **** on Carr and try to pump up the defense. How does that even make sense? If Carr was the issue we’d have replaced him, yet, we’ve dumped a bunch of assets on the defense for some reason. Pump up the defense from epic garbage to semi bad? yea you got me lol guilty so “semi bad” is not acceptable here? maybe you’ll address the topic about Carr’s effect on the defense…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Pump up the defense from epic garbage to semi bad? yea you got me lol guilty so “semi bad” is not acceptable here? maybe you’ll address the topic about Carr’s effect on the defense…. Semi bad? Lmao we’ve had one top 20 defense since 2014. And when we were “semi bad” (ranked 20th) we went 12-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Meh if he didn’t have that atl game I’d agree imo as a vet / semi franchise player that should never happen. Bad games happen, Brady threw 3 picks in the NFC Championship Game and still got to the SB. It’s almost like football is a team sport. Carr throws 3 picks we get rolled by 30. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Geezy said: Bad games happen, Brady threw 3 picks in the NFC Championship Game and still got to the SB. It’s almost like football is a team sport. Carr throws 3 picks we get rolled by 30. 💯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilshark69 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Btw, this stupid sh*t , ongoing forever, old as methuselah, wore out discussion is exactly why (IMO) we don’t see any more post’s from some of the oldest posters on here.... they’re tired of it prolly. I don’t try to attack anyone, I definitely believe everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I sure as h*ll ain’t gonna sit back and let people insult me by comparing me to an obsessive suicidal fan (Stan) or call me a cult member (lmao!) but someone outta change his profile name to raiderchef and have a giant wooden spoon as an avatar.... cuz he stirs the pot like no one else!!!!......period. Almost like he’s getting a kick out of it.....jus sayin. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, Geezy said: Semi bad? Lmao we’ve had one top 20 defense since 2014. And when we were “semi bad” (ranked 20th) we went 12-4 They were also #2 in takeaways with 30 on the year. That made them at least a top 15 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 52 minutes ago, Geezy said: Semi bad? Lmao we’ve had one top 20 defense since 2014. And when we were “semi bad” (ranked 20th) we went 12-4 Still side stepping the topic I see… 408 addressed the 12-4 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: one year he finally found his deep ball and his main deep ball sidekick left…think about that for a second now…what’s your thoughts on backnblack’s breakdown of the effects Carr’s mistakes had on the defense and how the offense took the defense from semi bad to epic garbage levels Semi bad? Nah they’ve just been bad. Even on a per drive basis they’ve been bad. Turnovers can’t explain that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Semi bad? Nah they’ve just been bad. Even on a per drive basis they’ve been bad. Turnovers can’t explain that. Backnblk explained it very thoroughly which I give him props for keeping it real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: one year he finally found his deep ball and his main deep ball sidekick left…think about that for a second now…what’s your thoughts on backnblack’s breakdown of the effects Carr’s mistakes had on the defense and how the offense took the defense from semi bad to epic garbage levels You act like any other QBs turnovers don’t negatively affect their defense lol until we get a breakdown of the entire league QBs and there turnover outcomes, it really don’t mean much. It’s common sense that a QBs turnover will lead to points for the other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 6 hours ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: Carr has put up good numbers, yet this team struggles to win games because of the ****ty defense. I'll say he gets the Raiders to the playoffs with any sort of respectful defense. He'd have to play lights out though to get to the playoffs with Mahomes, Hebert and Lock in the division. The Rams had the 20th best defense in the league and went 13-3/made the Super Bowl with Goff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 10 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Then **** the bed in the superbowl and helped his team score a grand total of 3 points. He had the #1 defense this year and played poorly, plus he's been trending in the wrong direction since Gurley fell off. Tom Brady put up 13 points against the 20th best defense in the league during that Super Bowl and in two of his Super Bowl losses has scored 17 and 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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