Dessie Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Turnobili said: didnt the raiders get agholor on a 1 year deal at or near the vets minimum? that should tell you how highly he was thought of around the league a year ago at this time He signed pretty early in FA, took a chance that he would perform well to get a bigger contract later down the line, turns out he got it right. Edited August 13, 2021 by Dessie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dessie said: He signed pretty early in FA, took a chance that he would perform well to get a bigger contract later down the line, turns out he got it right. sure, he got it right. but a coveted player could have gotten better than vets minimum even on a prove it deal lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Turnobili said: sure, he got it right. but a coveted player could have gotten better than vets minimum even on a prove it deal lol Nelly and gruden actually go way back to his Tampa days nelly is even close old buddies with deuce nelly mentioned he came because of gruden plus we were strapped for cash so we got him for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 11 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Nelly and gruden actually go way back to his Tampa days nelly is even close old buddies with deuce nelly mentioned he came because of gruden plus we were strapped for cash so we got him for cheap. bruh. i dont care how close they are. a guy in the middle of his career isnt taking the vets min unless he has to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Turnobili said: bruh. i dont care how close they are. a guy in the middle of his career isnt taking the vets min unless he has to Carr has done a pretty good job in his career rehabilitating receivers. If John Brown is next, we're gonna keep having these west-coast offense WR's cycling in and out year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 3:30 PM, Turnobili said: didnt the raiders get agholor on a 1 year deal at or near the vets minimum? that should tell you how highly he was thought of around the league a year ago at this time Yeah, IIRC we signed him fairly late in the FA process too on a 1 yr/$1.5M deal. He was coming off of a 360 yard (8 ypc) season in Philly and at the time a lot of posters here didn't even think he'd make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 11:08 PM, NCOUGHMAN said: Nelly and gruden actually go way back to his Tampa days nelly is even close old buddies with deuce nelly mentioned he came because of gruden plus we were strapped for cash so we got him for cheap. Nelly was terrible his last season in Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 3:49 PM, Frankie2Gunz said: Agreed. We really need Edwards to step up in a big way. This O has been lacking that big bodied, physical WR who can earn his keep over the middle and in the RZ. He would also take pressure off Waller. If Edwards can step up and post 1K/7 this O could be special. Edwards stepping up and us getting Foster Moreau more involved in the red zone should help our offense a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Edwards stepping up and us getting Foster Moreau more involved in the red zone should help our offense a ton. Agreed although I'm not as bullish as many on here regarding Moreau but he is certainly an upgrade over Witten. I will also add that having another legit back in Drake, who is a receiving threat, will also help us in the RZ. I think we overpaid for him but I do like him as a player and what he adds to the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Agreed although I'm not as bullish as many on here regarding Moreau but he is certainly an upgrade over Witten. I will also add that having another legit back in Drake, who is a receiving threat, will also help us in the RZ. I think we overpaid for him but I do like him as a player and what he adds to the O. He clearly wasn't healthy last season but as a rookie all 5 of his TD came in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: He clearly wasn't healthy last season but as a rookie all 5 of his TD came in the red zone. Any big bodied WR/TE who can be physical in the RZ helps this team because that is an area that is and has been a weakness. If he can repeat a 5TD's I would be happy with that as a backup TE. If he has to see the field as a starter for an expended period of time I expect an average at best performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Any big bodied WR/TE who can be physical in the RZ helps this team because that is an area that is and has been a weakness. If he can repeat a 5TD's I would be happy with that as a backup TE. If he has to see the field as a starter for an expended period of time I expect an average at best performance. Obviously the hope and expectation is that Waller will be healthy. But Moreau showed promise as a red zone target as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: Nelly was terrible his last season in Philadelphia. That gives me hope for Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: Obviously the hope and expectation is that Waller will be healthy. But Moreau showed promise as a red zone target as a rookie. I think Moreau would be a top ten all around TE if we did not have Waller. He might end up in that category even with Waller. It would take around 600 yards and 6 TDs. With 50-60 targets he could hit those numbers. With being healthy and Witten gone he may get there. Will depend on how much Carr trust his other receivers. I also do not think Waller gets 145 targets this year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: That gives me hope for Brown. JB is a good player, but I hope he doesn't see many target. I'm hoping Ruggs and Edwards emerge this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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