Archimedes Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Assuming he plays at least 3 more seasons and produces at his typical level, Matt Ryan will hit 60,000 passing yards and 400 passing TDs. Even with the inflated passing numbers of today’s game, that’s rarified air. The only other guys in that group: Brees Brady Manning Favre Marino Rivers and Roethlisberger will almost certainly join that group. Rodgers is more likely than not to make it, but he’s a little ways away. Stafford has a punchers chance of getting there. So that’s pretty good company for Ryan. He will also have an MVP, something that Brees, Roethlisberger, Stafford, and Rivers don’t have. Given all of that, wouldn’t he seem to be putting together a decent HOF-level resume? I actually think he’s got a solid case, but I wanted to see if anyone else thought so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) No. He's a good quarterback and is the greatest in Atlanta's history, but he is simply not good enough for the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame is more than just numbers. He's never won a Super Bowl (and Atlanta's epic choke doesn't help) and rarely has been considered among the best at his position. Edited July 14, 2020 by Elky 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 It amazes me how low people's standards are for the HoF when it comes to QBs. Newton, Rivers, Ryan? Get out of here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 Matt Ryan is a former MVP who is going to finish his career as one of the most statistically prolific passers in NFL history. I think he was pretty easily on par with Jim Kelly as a player. It’s one thing if you don’t think he’s in, but spare me the “low standard” nonsense. He’s going to end his career as one of the most accomplished quarterbacks EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Archimedes said: It’s one thing if you don’t think he’s in, but spare me the “low standard” nonsense. He’s going to end his career as one of the most accomplished quarterbacks EVER. There is a low standard. Matthew Stafford is likely going to retire as one of the most statistically prolific passers as well, should he get in? For many, there’s more to it than stats. Matt Ryan, aside from one season, has never been the best QB in the league. He’s never really been consistently in the conversation as amongst the best either, meaning never in the conversation to be as good/better than the top QBs. And for the HOF, that matters. Stats and accomplishments - the latter of which Ryan actually lacks in some respects - are important too, but being consistently being elite should matter more. Putting in everybody with good stats is a low standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchDJ Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I don’t think so unless he wins a ring. I would put him in there before Rivers & Romo if I had a choice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I remember seeing a tweet that he was a Julio dropped TD away vs the Eagles away from having 6 straight playoff games over a 100 Qb rating. Not sure if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: There is a low standard. Matthew Stafford is likely going to retire as one of the most statistically prolific passers as well, should he get in? For many, there’s more to it than stats. Matt Ryan, aside from one season, has never been the best QB in the league. He’s never really been consistently in the conversation as amongst the best either, meaning never in the conversation to be as good/better than the top QBs. And for the HOF, that matters. Stats and accomplishments - the latter of which Ryan actually lacks in some respects - are important too, but being consistently being elite should matter more. Putting in everybody with good stats is a low standard. And Matt Stafford should go in the HOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 No, but he can still make it if he either wins a Super Bowl or another MVP award, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 He's been considered top 5 maybe one season out of his entire career. That's all there is to it. Hall of Fame is reserved for those who are consistently elite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Drained said: And Matt Stafford should go in the HOF. .... please tell me you're joking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Joe Flacco is still the best QB out of the 2008 QB Class and it's not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Xmad said: Joe Flacco is still the best QB out of the 2008 QB Class and it's not even close. No.... not really. Was Nick Foles the best QB out of the 2012 Draft Class? 2nd* Forgot Russ was in that draft class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Danger said: No.... not really. Was Nick Foles the best QB out of the 2012 Draft Class? 2nd* Forgot Russ was in that draft class. Who won a super bowl? I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, Xmad said: Who won a super bowl? I rest my case. Winning a Super Bowl doesn't make you the best QB. It's a major factor, but if you're really going to suggest Foles > Luck, you'd fail as a GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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