BackinBlack Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Jraider91 said: Mark Davis making the decision is part of the problem tbh LOL for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: Because I am assuming MD knows who Mayock was pushing for and who Gruden was pushing for. As ill continue to say, us fans dont know, but Mark Davis does. What Mark Davis knows will decide if he stays or not. Hopefully Mayock doesn't blow another half a billy and 5 more first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Hopefully Mayock doesn't blow another half a billy and 5 more first rounders. You literally were just saying how it was Gruden who did all of that. Pick a side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: You literally were just saying how it was Gruden who did all of that. Pick a side 😂😂 good luck getting a straight answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: You literally were just saying how it was Gruden who did all of that. Pick a side So there are 3 options: • Gruden made all of the decisions, meaning Mike has shown nothing so far. • Mayock made the decisions, meaning Mike has blown assets at a historical rate. • They worked together, meaning he played a key role in blowing assets at a historical rate. Regardless of how you spin it, there's nothing positive you can take away in support of Mayock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dessie said: 😂😂 good luck getting a straight answer. Either Gruden built the team with little input from Mike and has minimal experience building a team, he built the team and wasted assets, or they built the team together and wasted assets. What about half a billion dollars and like 15 draft picks resulting in John Simpson and Alex Leatherwood is inspiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Regardless of how you spin it, there's nothing positive you can take away in support of Mayock. When they signed Mayock I thought it was a 3 year rebuild, and we are in the playoffs after 3 years. That is positive, because it means we are on the track i figured we would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Either Gruden built the team with little input from Mike and has minimal experience building a team, he built the team and wasted assets, or they built the team together and wasted assets. What about half a billion dollars and like 15 draft picks resulting in John Simpson and Alex Leatherwood is inspiring? Of all the picks you name Simpson ?? A 4th rounder ? You are just rambling now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: When they signed Mayock I thought it was a 3 year rebuild, and we are in the playoffs after 3 years. That is positive, because it means we are on the track i figured we would be We made the playoffs largely in part to Gus Bradley, a former Gruden assistant, scraping together a collection of former players like Philon, Faycon, Perryman, etc. so that our defense was not a complete disaster. We had lost 5 of 6 games and then played the Browns with like half their team missing and 3rd string QB, the Broncos with their backup QB, and the Colts without most of their OL and Wentz coming off of the covid list with 0 practice that week. The team lacks premier talent and isn't a contender, we got lucky to make the wild card this season. The Browns, WFT, and Bears made the playoffs last season while the Dolphins won 10 games. Each of those teams got exposed this year when luck didn't fall their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dessie said: Of all the picks you name Simpson ?? A 4th rounder ? You are just rambling now. You're right, Mayock has a lot to show for all of the money we've spent and 1st round picks that we've had. He has done an excellent job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: You're right, Mayock has a lot to show for all of the money we've spent and 1st round picks that we've had. He has done an excellent job. You said it was Gruden that built the team, make your mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dessie said: 😂😂 good luck getting a straight answer. Don’t even bother man. If you quit engaging maybe he goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, Dessie said: You said it was Gruden that built the team, make your mind up. You're right, Mike was probably just in the back of the facility admiring Mark Davis bowl cut the last few years. He'll probably turn it around and make great decisions without Gruden here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, FloydFan said: Don’t even bother man. If you quit engaging maybe he goes away. 😂 he changes his stance so many times he forgets what he’s said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: We made the playoffs largely in part to Gus Bradley, a former Gruden assistant, scraping together a collection of former players like Philon, Faycon, Perryman, etc. so that our defense was not a complete disaster. We had lost 5 of 6 games and then played the Browns with like half their team missing and 3rd string QB, the Broncos with their backup QB, and the Colts without most of their OL and Wentz coming off of the covid list with 0 practice that week. The team lacks premier talent and isn't a contender, we got lucky to make the wild card this season. The Browns, WFT, and Bears made the playoffs last season while the Dolphins won 10 games. Each of those teams got exposed this year when luck didn't fall their way. Thats how you see our team and thats fine, but you also thought Mariotta was a better QB then Carr. You are entitled to your own opinion, but it can be wrong, like you were about Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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