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What is your opinion on Jay Cutler


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9 hours ago, Sugashane said:

Ton of success doesnt mean HoF. Averaging 25 TDs and 4000 yards isn't out of the question with a good cast, and that's better than any QB we've seen in Chicago. Do that for 8-10 years and yes, that will win a lot of games and he'd be top 20 in passing TDs and yards.

 

I'd say that's a lot of success to have. 

He was a turnover machine. 

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1 hour ago, Heinz D. said:

He was a turnover machine. 

So was Brett Favre... and he had much better talent around him playing and coaching than Jay. 

As far as INT% he isn't that far behind Big Ben and Rivers either (both 2.6 to his 3.3). Clearly they have been in much better situations than Jay too, in both player personnel and coaching talent. 

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20 hours ago, Sugashane said:

So was Brett Favre... and he had much better talent around him playing and coaching than Jay. 

As far as INT% he isn't that far behind Big Ben and Rivers either (both 2.6 to his 3.3). Clearly they have been in much better situations than Jay too, in both player personnel and coaching talent. 

How about the fumbles? 

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41 minutes ago, Heinz D. said:

How about the fumbles? 

Clearly also goes down with better OL play and coaching. In his last year in DEN he threw the ball 616 times, rushed 57 times, and was sacked 11 times. So that was 684 times the play was directly in his hands, obviously not counting handoffs. He had 5 fumbles. His OL was trash to mediocre at best any season he was in Chicago, with several years having Garza as our best OL. 

 

Rivers has had 15 fumbles in a season, had 8 multiple times, had 9, had 11, etc. So he doesn't help your point. Big Ben has had 14 in a season, 9 in four seasons, 8, 7, etc. So he doesn't really either. They're still similar enough even when compared over careers. And not one person here will say that SD's cast or Ben's cast for the bulk of their careers were anywhere near what Chicago put around Jay. 

 

Like I said, he wouldn't be HoF but would have a lot of success. Likewise Ben and Rivers wouldn't have enjoyed near the success being in the offensive cast and coaching Jay was regularly subject too. That is a fact. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

 The bears ruined his career like they do with all QB’s that land here. During the beginning of his bear’s career he had no Oline to protect him and no receivers to throw too.  JaMarcus Webb as your LT and Devin Hester as your #1 WR. Those were terrible rosters.  Jay should be commended for playing as well as he did on such a inferior team.   Later in his career when he finally got some talent around him. The Bears go an hire a disaster of a head coach in Tresman and defense went from a top defense to a bottom feeding D when Urlacher retired.  Had the bears had half way decent management Jay would have won a super bowl and would be considered a HOF’er.   

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