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(Way too early) mid season Mock Offseason

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This is going be brief by how would you like this off-season: 

Cap: -6m 

releases: T Williams 11.6m, L Joyner 11.2m, MM 10.1, Richie 6.3m, Heath 3.5m

savings: 40m 

New deals:

Agholor 3-4m : WR2/slot, Booker 2-3m: RB2, Hankins 5-6 m: NT 2-3 year deal, Good 2-3 m: great depth piece, Irving vet minimum, McMillen vet minimum SLB,

go into free agency with around 28m: 

Allen Robinson WR1- why? I think he takes this offense to the next level into a dominant unit. Look at all the teams with no income tax: Nevada, Florida. We make the most sense. We could use a true WR1 and Robinson is worth 20m a year. Robinson has never played with a QB like DC. I truly feel like Arob is an elite WR1 

Marcus Williams FS- not all world, but a FS with range. Saints are in salary cap hell

Draft: 

R1- Jay Tufele DT- I expect Raiders to be drafting in the 20s. Tufele is an elite athlete who can provide interior pass rush. Has all the tools 

R2- Carman Jackson RT- from Clemson, a power system fit. Brown is injury prone, so be wise to draft a RT early. Can’t go wrong in the trenches, and could Brown replacement in 2022.

R3- Shaka Toney Edge- get another guy in the mix to help the pass rush. Is a freak athlete, but a bit raw 

R4- Jabril Cox LB- (Dolphins pick)- continue to add talent and speed on defense. Cox could provide depth, and push to start by the end of his rookie deal. 

R4- Talanoa, Hufanaga- could use safety depth. Abram plays wreckless, and for 3 safety looks. 4th rounder would be cheap 

R5- trade a 5th for Gardner Minshew- seems like a Gruden guy. Mobile and more of a west coast QB. On a cheap contract, I expect Jags to draft a QB.

Rest of the draft BPA 

QB: DC, Minshew 

RB: Jacobs, Booker, Richard 

WR: Robinson, Ruggs, Agholor, Edwards, Renfrow 

TE: Waller, Moreau 

T: Miller, Brown, Parker, Jackson

G: Jackson, Good, Simpson, 

Center: Hudson, James 

DE: Ferrell, Crosby, Nassib, Key, Toney 

DT: Tufele, Hankins, Hurst, Irving 

LB: Littleton, Kwit, McMillen, Cox  Muse/White

CB: Mullen, Arnette, Johnson, Amik, Nixon
S: M Williams, Abram, Hufanaga

K/P/LS- Carlson, Cole, Seig 

thoughts? Plus a new DC 

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FA:

I'm iffy on the Allen Robinson signing. WR1's always land big money deals and flame out one way or another it seems. I'd rather invest that cap space into a nickel CB, LB, DT, and/or G. 

Like the Williams signing, so long as it doesn't break the bank. 

Draft:

Rd1: Tufele would be a solid pick. Frankly, though, give me the best S available. It's not a particularly deep S class. Get the right guy, we could get creative with 3 S looks with Abram, Williams, R1 pick. If not, DT would be fine. 

Rd2: If we went S in 1, give me Tyler Shelvin at DT in 2. OT is a need, but this class is fairly deep there, and we've had better luck with later round O-linemen than anywhere on D. 

Rd3: OT time. Faalele, Van Lannen, or Munford. 

Rd4: LB/Edge. 

Rd5-7- Project QB + BPA

I did a mock sim based on it and here's what I came up with without trades and such (feel free to scrutinize)

1. Jevon Holland (S), Oregon- fills in at FS/Nickel and gives us a dynamic look in 3 deep sets. 

2. Tyler Shelvin (DT), LSU- big DT that could draw a lot of double blocks.

3. Daniel Faalele (OT), Minnesota- best OT left on the board, heir apparent for Brown.

4. Jaelan Phillips (Edge), Miami- another edge guy to push Ferrell/Crosby and rotate in.

4. Damone Clark (LB), LSU- best LB available. 

5. Ben Brown (G), Ole Miss- best G available. We'll need the depth.

6. KJ Costello (QB), Miss St.- this one is tricky. I had him as a solid day 2 prior to the season. He could go totally undrafted now. He was the best QB left on my board at present, though, and I didn't mind the 6th round price tag. The MSU transfer hasn't done him any favors, but there might still be some upside.

7. Justin Foster (Edge), Clemson- depth flyer.

7. Keith Taylor (CB), Washington- depth flyer.

2021 Roster

QB: DC, Peterman, Costello

RB: Jacobs, Booker, Richard, Ingold

WR: Ruggs, Agholor, Edwards, Renfrow, FA

TE: Waller, Moreau 

T: Miller, Brown, Parker, Faalele

G: Jackson, Good, Simpson, B.Brown

Center: Hudson, James 

DE: Ferrell, Crosby, Nassib, Key, Phillips, Foster

DT: Hankins, Hurst, Irving, Shelvin

LB: Littleton, Kwit, McMillen, Clark, Muse/White

CB: Mullen, Arnette, Johnson, Amik, Nixon, Taylor

S: M Williams, Abram, Holland

K/P/LS- Carlson, Cole, Seig 

51/53 players, so there's some room for wiggle.

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6 hours ago, ronjon1990 said:

FA:

I'm iffy on the Allen Robinson signing. WR1's always land big money deals and flame out one way or another it seems. I'd rather invest that cap space into a nickel CB, LB, DT, and/or G. 

Like the Williams signing, so long as it doesn't break the bank. 

Draft:

Rd1: Tufele would be a solid pick. Frankly, though, give me the best S available. It's not a particularly deep S class. Get the right guy, we could get creative with 3 S looks with Abram, Williams, R1 pick. If not, DT would be fine. 

Rd2: If we went S in 1, give me Tyler Shelvin at DT in 2. OT is a need, but this class is fairly deep there, and we've had better luck with later round O-linemen than anywhere on D. 

Rd3: OT time. Faalele, Van Lannen, or Munford. 

Rd4: LB/Edge. 

Rd5-7- Project QB + BPA

I did a mock sim based on it and here's what I came up with without trades and such (feel free to scrutinize)

1. Jevon Holland (S), Oregon- fills in at FS/Nickel and gives us a dynamic look in 3 deep sets. 

2. Tyler Shelvin (DT), LSU- big DT that could draw a lot of double blocks.

3. Daniel Faalele (OT), Minnesota- best OT left on the board, heir apparent for Brown.

4. Jaelan Phillips (Edge), Miami- another edge guy to push Ferrell/Crosby and rotate in.

4. Damone Clark (LB), LSU- best LB available. 

5. Ben Brown (G), Ole Miss- best G available. We'll need the depth.

6. KJ Costello (QB), Miss St.- this one is tricky. I had him as a solid day 2 prior to the season. He could go totally undrafted now. He was the best QB left on my board at present, though, and I didn't mind the 6th round price tag. The MSU transfer hasn't done him any favors, but there might still be some upside.

7. Justin Foster (Edge), Clemson- depth flyer.

7. Keith Taylor (CB), Washington- depth flyer.

2021 Roster

QB: DC, Peterman, Costello

RB: Jacobs, Booker, Richard, Ingold

WR: Ruggs, Agholor, Edwards, Renfrow, FA

TE: Waller, Moreau 

T: Miller, Brown, Parker, Faalele

G: Jackson, Good, Simpson, B.Brown

Center: Hudson, James 

DE: Ferrell, Crosby, Nassib, Key, Phillips, Foster

DT: Hankins, Hurst, Irving, Shelvin

LB: Littleton, Kwit, McMillen, Clark, Muse/White

CB: Mullen, Arnette, Johnson, Amik, Nixon, Taylor

S: M Williams, Abram, Holland

K/P/LS- Carlson, Cole, Seig 

51/53 players, so there's some room for wiggle.

I thought about Shelvin in the 3rd. I also really like Holland too. Isn’t Shelvin more of a NT then a UT, I wouldn’t value a NT with the top 2 picks. Especially if we bring Hankins back. I could just see 

Carr - Aikman 

Jacobs - Smith

Robinson - Irvin 

then we can get creative with Ruggs, use him all over the field. :) 
 

I like your mock, and almost mocked a RT in 3rd round too. I just would rather have a vet backup instead of a day 3 pick. Peterman hopefully never becomes a starting QB for us. Honestly feel like we are one draft, a few free agents away from being a contender. Keep developing the young talent! 

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Nice work HB.  I would change a few things if I were doing it.  

I don't think outside of RT we need anything on offense.  Re-sign Nelly.  Re-sign Booker.  Find a RT.  (Assuming we end our relationship with Trent. Which idk if I'm fully on board with.  

I want impact upgrades on defense.  Spend there.  Draft there.  Look and consider trades.  I like Williams at FS.  Get me an edge specialist.  A dog at DT.  Something that teams look at and HAVE to know where he is at all times.  If it takes trading up... Or spending some of that 40 mil.. whatever.  We need a game changer on D.

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I will happily say that the Raiders and Trent Browns relationship ends after this year. Dont see how they can stick with him when the return you're getting is 6-9 games a season and especially when you can cut bait and have zero dead money. 

I would stay away from drafting a safety unless its a cant miss prospect already to much youth in the back end. Need a guy who has a couple of seasons to give this group some much needed experience. FA safety group will offer a few good players who you can bring it and fill that role. Maybe a late round guy that you can develop, but I wouldn't draft one to start. 

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2 hours ago, agarcia34 said:

I will happily say that the Raiders and Trent Browns relationship ends after this year. Dont see how they can stick with him when the return you're getting is 6-9 games a season and especially when you can cut bait and have zero dead money. 

I would stay away from drafting a safety unless its a cant miss prospect already to much youth in the back end. Need a guy who has a couple of seasons to give this group some much needed experience. FA safety group will offer a few good players who you can bring it and fill that role. Maybe a late round guy that you can develop, but I wouldn't draft one to start. 

I would say we need more speed and range at safety. We have vets in Heath and Harris and they leave a lot to be desired without range. I hope we add a vet safety, and then add another all around safety for development and depth. Our youth at DB is at corner. 

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2 hours ago, agarcia34 said:

I will happily say that the Raiders and Trent Browns relationship ends after this year. Dont see how they can stick with him when the return you're getting is 6-9 games a season and especially when you can cut bait and have zero dead money. 

I would stay away from drafting a safety unless its a cant miss prospect already to much youth in the back end. Need a guy who has a couple of seasons to give this group some much needed experience. FA safety group will offer a few good players who you can bring it and fill that role. Maybe a late round guy that you can develop, but I wouldn't draft one to start. 

Idk if I want to plug in 2 new starters on OL. Father Time is undefeated and Richie seems like he is breaking down. Brown salary is going down, and just having bad luck this year. 

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Stop reading after Way to early.... generally a post that starts like that, the author knows it shouldn't have been created to begin with

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16 minutes ago, big_palooka said:

Stop reading after Way to early.... generally a post that starts like that, the author knows it shouldn't have been created to begin with

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