Nightmare Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 This is actually a pretty cool statistic. I wasn’t aware the Raiders, Chargers and Broncos were all tied for most division titles (and will almost certainly be joined by the Chiefs soon). I’m hoping BayRaider is right and this doesn’t last much longer, but I’m not so sure. Even when the Chiefs can’t afford to keep some of their other talent, they’ll still have the best HC/QB combo in the league. As you can see from some posts in this thread, heads are already swelling, so ideally the rest of us catch up pretty soon, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Raiders and Broncos are behind against the Chargers and Chiefs the next few years due to the QB matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, pf9 said: If the Kansas City Chiefs win the AFC West in both 2021 and 2022, they would have 15 division titles - same as the other teams in the AFC West. No other division currently has the same amount of titles won by each of its current members (the NFC South did for one year, 2013; since then, four titles by the Saints, two by the Panthers, and one by the Falcons, with Tampa Bay last winning the division in 2007). The other two AFC West titles were won by a former member, Seattle. Raiders have 16 01. 1967 02. 1968 03. 1969 04. 1970 05. 1972 06. 1973 07. 1974 08. 1975 09. 1976 10. 1982 11. 1983 12. 1985 13. 1990 14. 2000 15. 2001 16. 2002 Probably you didn't count the player strike year the Raiders finished with the best record in 1982. If I'm not mistaken Chiefs are at 12 1. 1966 2. 1971 3. 1993 4. 1995 5. 1997 6. 2003 7. 2010 8. 2016 9. 2017 10. 2018 11. 2019 12. 2020 The other two have 15 though Edited January 21, 2021 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Trojan said: Raiders have 16 01. 1967 02. 1968 03. 1969 04. 1970 05. 1972 06. 1973 07. 1974 08. 1975 09. 1976 10. 1982 11. 1983 12. 1985 13. 1990 14. 2000 15. 2001 16. 2002 Probably you didn't count the player strike year the Raiders finished with the best record in 1982. If I'm not mistaken Chiefs are at 12 1. 1966 2. 1971 3. 1993 4. 1995 5. 1997 6. 2003 7. 2010 8. 2016 9. 2017 10. 2018 11. 2019 12. 2020 The other two have 15 though You missed 1962, for the Chiefs. They were the Dallas Texans at the time, but same franchise. If we're accepting different iterations of the Raiders/Chargers, I assume we'd include the 62 Texans. Especially since the tally for the Chargers includes 60, 61, 63, 64, and 65. If we take out the original AFL divisional titles, the Chargers are way behind the pack. You are correct on the strike season being what was left out for the Raiders. Officially, the NFL threw out division standings that year, so it is not officially counted as a division title. And then the other contentious year would be 1968. That one is officially tallied as a tie, between the Chiefs and the Raiders. The Raiders did wind up beating the Chiefs in the playoffs, so they ended with the better season, but the actual division title went down as a tie that year. Both teams went 12-2, they split the head to head, and they didn't have all the tiebreakers they currently do, as it was still the AFL, so it just went down as a tie. For the record, if they DID have current tiebreakers, the Raiders had the worse divisional record, so KC would've had solo ownership of the 68 title by modern rules. Some technicalities, maybe, but add those two for the Chiefs, 62 and 68, and knock off 82 for the Raiders, and that's where you get 14 for KC, 15 for the others. Or, if it makes you feel better, give 68 to KC solely, based on modern rules, and give 82 to the Raiders, also by modern rules, and you end up in the same place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: You missed 1962, for the Chiefs. They were the Dallas Texans at the time, but same franchise. If we're accepting different iterations of the Raiders/Chargers, I assume we'd include the 62 Texans. Especially since the tally for the Chargers includes 60, 61, 63, 64, and 65. If we take out the original AFL divisional titles, the Chargers are way behind the pack. You are correct on the strike season being what was left out for the Raiders. Officially, the NFL threw out division standings that year, so it is not officially counted as a division title. And then the other contentious year would be 1968. That one is officially tallied as a tie, between the Chiefs and the Raiders. The Raiders did wind up beating the Chiefs in the playoffs, so they ended with the better season, but the actual division title went down as a tie that year. Both teams went 12-2, they split the head to head, and they didn't have all the tiebreakers they currently do, as it was still the AFL, so it just went down as a tie. For the record, if they DID have current tiebreakers, the Raiders had the worse divisional record, so KC would've had solo ownership of the 68 title by modern rules. Some technicalities, maybe, but add those two for the Chiefs, 62 and 68, and knock off 82 for the Raiders, and that's where you get 14 for KC, 15 for the others. Or, if it makes you feel better, give 68 to KC solely, based on modern rules, and give 82 to the Raiders, also by modern rules, and you end up in the same place. I'm cool with not counting pre-merger and sending the Chargers to the void. I wasn't aware Dallas Texans were the Chiefs. Edited January 21, 2021 by Trojan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, rich homie said: Rodgers won the division 7 out of 13 years (so far), Manning won 11 out of 13 years, Brady won almost every single year (although the AFC East never really put out a strong challenger). Just having Mahomes pretty much guarantees the Chiefs domination for a while, provided he stays healthy. Don't know why you included Rodgers as 7 of 13 isn't close to "domination" and still lots of parity. I could certainly see Mahomes doing like 8 out of 13, and he's already won three straight, and probably 2021 as well. So from 2022 onwards that'd be 4 division crowns out of 9 seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich homie Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Don't know why you included Rodgers as 7 of 13 isn't close to "domination" and still lots of parity. I could certainly see Mahomes doing like 8 out of 13, and he's already won three straight, and probably 2021 as well. So from 2022 onwards that'd be 4 division crowns out of 9 seasons. One team winning the division more often than not is not parity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 5:08 PM, Kirill said: Makes sense, they're all obsessed with us. Their entire drafts are pretty much just trying to get guys that match up against us. 🤣 no they dont. Well, Chargers dont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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