Breesus mode Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, The LBC said: Define "good pressure" because I saw Flowers getting close on a couple occasions, but barring an actual blitz being sent, no one else was getting remotely close to home. It was like watching Melvin "King of the Almost-Sack" Ingram last season. Even Pats bloggers were lamenting the Patriots' pass-rush well into the 3rd quarter, while having to simultaneously calm down knee-jerk fans that were calling for Patricia to be canned. Unless they blitzed, McCown had all day to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Refer to what I said about the final drive and lack of pressure without blitzing. Stats without context are meaningless. What? Stats without context are meaningless, yes. But how about, we got key sacks which stalled a potential game tieing drive. That's the context, so the stat is meaningful, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breesus mode Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, tonyto36 said: You have a great penchant for avoiding and deflecting all the points I've made and repeatedly squirreling out of it by making personal attacks. I believe that is against the rules. There's no point in actually trying to debate you, your posts are homer garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Watson's walking OROTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, tonyto36 said: It's not just about counting final scores of games and averaging it out. Belichick himself has stated several times he views the first four weeks of the season as an extension of the preseason. Just look at the Patriots W/L splits from month to month over the past... SEVENTEEN years. I'd think you'd be surprised how mediocre/average they've been in September. We're not evaluating the Patriots for the season (where your argument would apply). We're talking about THIS game. THIS ONE SINGULAR GAME, evaluating their ONE GAME performance. NOT a full season performance. You're making an argument for a final resolution point that does not apply at all. The Patriots vs the Jets were good, and their performance against the Chiefs etc. has absolutely zero relevance. If you try to spin it as this game being a fluke, that still doesn't matter because you're inherently conceding the Patriots D played well. You realize that just because you say the words "absolutely no relevance" doesn't actually make that true, right? Yes, the Patriots defense played well - still far from outstanding - against an average-at-best offense today. That makes them a good defense today. You're resorting to splitting hairs and arguing semantics while tossing out hyperbole like Halloween candy and labeling just about anyone that disagrees with your position "a hater." By the same logic you've presented, what they did this ONE GAME means exactly squat moving forward. Because that was this game. Next week is next week. And if/when they get lit up by the Falcons, this game will have "absolutely zero relevance" to anything. What's rich is that you want cite history while simultaneously dismissing (not just trying to discount but outright saying, "it doesn't matter/it has no relevance whatsoever") a larger portion of the past 6 games worth of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, The LBC said: Define "good pressure" because I saw Flowers getting close on a couple occasions, but barring an actual blitz being sent, no one else was getting remotely close to home. It was like watching Melvin "King of the Almost-Sack" Ingram last season. Even Pats bloggers were lamenting the Patriots' pass-rush well into the 3rd quarter, while having to simultaneously calm down knee-jerk fans that were calling for Patricia to be canned. Wise, as well. Hightower on a few bull rushes when used at the end. I'm not arguing that we have a good pass rush, because we don't. At all. But today probably saw a best game in terms of pressure. As pathetic as that may seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I feel like both Mike Evans and PP should have caught that. Neither thought the ball was coming tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Hunter2_1 said: What? Stats without context are meaningless, yes. But how about, we got key sacks which stalled a potential game tieing drive. That's the context, so the stat is meaningful, right? No that's announcer jargon poppycock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, Mesa_Titan said: No that's announcer jargon poppycock. What is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS922 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The Chiefs only have 6 yards? Dafuq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Can I backseat mod and say that we should drop the Patriots talk and get back to discussing current games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Just now, BroncoSojia said: Can I backseat mod and say that we should drop the Patriots talk and get back to discussing current games? Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Marc MacGyver said: Watson's walking OROTY. He's definitely in the Hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klyon7634 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Down 31-0. The Bucs finally score and Desean Jackson "shushes" the crowd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 How do you get to shoulder a DB like that on a pick play? Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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