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2 hours ago, BullsandBroncos said:

Robert Malone needs to throw out his tinfoil hat too

Just looked him up and saw 'Mass Formation Psychosis" which I instantly guessed (correctly) what that is and I 100% think it is happening now. However on BOTH SIDES.  That's the problem. Both sides have gone too far but only see the other side is the problem when they need to look in the mirror and see the biggest problem is themselves. I just eat imaginary popcorn and think it gets worse before it gets better but to change ANYONE but yourself is not going to work. Ever.

So I see a know it all when I look in the mirror and I hate those types. lol

PS I've noticed not as many posts since the new wave. So maybe, just maybe a paradim shift is in the works of the minds of many. Or not and it stays 'tribal' 

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2 minutes ago, G said:

Just looked him up and saw 'Mass Formation Psychosis" which I instantly guessed (correctly) what that is and I 100% think it is happening now. However on BOTH SIDES.  That's the problem. Both sides have gone too far but only see the other side is the problem when they need to look in the mirror and see the biggest problem is themselves. I just eat imaginary popcorn and think it gets worse before it gets better but to change ANYONE but yourself is not going to work. Ever.

So I see a know it all when I look in the mirror and I hate those types. lol

One thing I'm trying to wrap my head around is some of these guys aren't even virologists or or disease specialists. 

the bolded is the biggest thing for me. It's all sides pointing the finger at the other. 

That's another reason why I search stuff with duck duck go, Google and the other engines only show stuff on one political extreme or the other. 

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3 minutes ago, BullsandBroncos said:

One thing I'm trying to wrap my head around is some of these guys aren't even virologists or or disease specialists. 

the bolded is the biggest thing for me. It's all sides pointing the finger at the other. 

That's another reason why I search stuff with duck duck go, Google and the other engines only show stuff on one political extreme or the other. 

I'm no expert but all I had to do was remember my grade school classes in the 70's/80's to know to wait and see things play out. Was only waiting a year and gathering info to see if I got a shot which one I'd want and NVAX (approval soon I expect) had the best profile and I confirmed that bias with the stuff I looked up. However 8 months into vaccine rollout mandates and passports basically ended my desire to EVER get a shot. One year mark and many have 3rd shot, Israel going for 4th and more people are infected than ever before. So I'm glad I took the wait and see approach. Never was worried about covid but was worried how people would act/react to the threat and it has been worse than I had imagined. Oh well. 

 

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On 1/1/2022 at 8:25 AM, DontTazeMeBro said:

So Fauci is blaming the number of Covid cases on over counting. I think the exact example he used was kids going to ER with broken arms, getting tested for Covid, and being counted as a Covid hospitalization. That’s interesting. Fauci.

Yeah, many more incidental cases due to the sheer number Omicron is infecting in a short period of time. It's happening with adults, too. It makes sense since we're seeing much milder symptoms in a majority of people compared to previous waves, so people don't know they're infected until they test positive before surgery, or a trip to the ED, etc...

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Patent pooling to allow manufacture of COVID-19 therapeutics for poorer countries

https://www.science.org/content/article/once-crazy-idea-patent-pooling-nonprofit-will-help-bring-covid-19-pills-world-s-poor

Pfizer and Merck agreed to allow others to make their new COVID therapeutics in poorer countries- this is very good news for many non-US folks. They are basically going generic from the get go. Part of the reason for that is because small molecules are much easier to make from the recipe vs a biological vaccine

At the same time, Pfizer and Moderna did not do a similar deal for the vaccines, again because of the know-how required to do it perfectly every time. If Pfizer and Moderna allowed others, very high chance for ****-ups and given all the drama around the vaccines already  - it was the smart move all the way.

But people who are not well versed in vaccine mfg see it as a problem. People like this lady quoted in the article

"Q: Where has the patent pool yet to succeed with COVID-19?

A: It’s remarkable that Pfizer is licensing its therapeutics but not its vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna have dug in their heels: They don’t want to license their vaccines. They want to keep them within their own, trusted circle of contract manufacturers. And that is a huge problem. What I’m hoping is that this experience Pfizer now has with [MPP] will lead them to take the next, and much more important, step to license its technology. And that would have to include a technology transfer package, in collaboration with the [MPP] and World Health Organization tech transfer initiatives.

Q: And the tech transfer is far more important with a vaccine than with a chemical compound like the drugs?

A: Indeed. Because otherwise, countries would have been issuing compulsory licenses left and right. But you just don’t get there with only the patents. You need a package that actually transfers the technology package."

 

Even with a Tech Transfer package, you'd still want some of the mfg experts from Moderna/Pfizer on site
Bottom line: small molecule drugs are fairly simple to make consistently, vaccines are the opposite and the risk for ****-ups is immense. That's the last thing we need right now
Some like to paint this decision as selfish or greedy, but that merely tells you they don't know what they are talking about. Making high quality vaccines is really really hard and the new mRNA ones are a step beyond.

 

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Really informative thread about the situation in NYC in regards to Omicron:

 

 

The pandemic definitely seems to be shifting for the better, but it ain't all sunshine and rainbows yet. 

- Patients don't need oxygen nearly as much, but are still getting really sick- just not sick enough to need ICU care. I'll take that as a big win. 

- This is still largely hitting the unvaccinated MUCH harder than the vaccinated

-The ED is swamped with patients during a time when the ED is normally strained even pre-pandemic

- Logistical issues arise from that and workers getting infected.

- With so much COVID circulating in the hospital- patients that can't afford to get infected are exposed to the virus (cancer patients, etc...)

 

So, we're in a new phase it seems, but it's still tough on hospitals. NYC *should* be peaking soon, though, so hopefully things start to look a lot better in the coming weeks. 

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended Tuesday that Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine recipients get a booster five months after their second shot, shortening the interval by a month.

The agency additionally recommended a third dose for immunocompromised 5-to-11-year-olds, which can be given 28 days after their second shot. Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is the only one authorized for that age group.  Health authorities have been urging booster shots for months, pointing to data indicating that vaccine-induced immunity wanes over time. About a third of eligible Americans have gotten a booster, according to CDC data.

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https://rairfoundation.com/soviet-canada-doctor-locked-in-psych-ward-who-exposed-stillbirths-explosion-in-vaccinated-moms-interview/

 

in Waterloo, Ontario, 86 cases have been reported in six months, compared to typically five to six per year, says doctor Daniel Nagase. “That is highly unusual.”

At Lions Gate Hospital in Vancouver, British Columbia, 13 stillbirths were recorded over 24 hours, reported the doctor. Until recently, Dr. Nagase worked at an Alberta hospital but said he was fired after treating three covid patients with ivermectin at the Rimbey Hospital and Care Centre.

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36 minutes ago, BullsandBroncos said:

https://rairfoundation.com/soviet-canada-doctor-locked-in-psych-ward-who-exposed-stillbirths-explosion-in-vaccinated-moms-interview/

 

in Waterloo, Ontario, 86 cases have been reported in six months, compared to typically five to six per year, says doctor Daniel Nagase. “That is highly unusual.”

At Lions Gate Hospital in Vancouver, British Columbia, 13 stillbirths were recorded over 24 hours, reported the doctor. Until recently, Dr. Nagase worked at an Alberta hospital but said he was fired after treating three covid patients with ivermectin at the Rimbey Hospital and Care Centre.

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