RavensTillIDie Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 hours ago, El ramster said: Suns are straight garbage. I really have no idea what kind of team the Suns want to be/should be going forward. Yeah, they have a bunch of lottery picks on the team, but there's really only two guys you can remotely build around right now; Booker and Warren. And they are both high usage scorers, so do you want a talented defensive big next to them? But does that make sense if they want to play fast? Do they invest in the PG position? But that ultimately means taking the ball out of Warren and Bookers hands. I feel like one of Ayton/Doncic/Porter is the best fit for this team, but I'm just not sure what direction they want to go in terms of style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, RavensTillIDie said: I really have no idea what kind of team the Suns want to be/should be going forward. Yeah, they have a bunch of lottery picks on the team, but there's really only two guys you can remotely build around right now; Booker and Warren. And they are both high usage scorers, so do you want a talented defensive big next to them? But does that make sense if they want to play fast? Do they invest in the PG position? But that ultimately means taking the ball out of Warren and Bookers hands. I feel like one of Ayton/Doncic/Porter is the best fit for this team, but I'm just not sure what direction they want to go in terms of style of play. People were crapping on the Nuggets for doing the half-*** rebuild thing bc they kept solid vets that had trade value and put a competent team out there to win 30-40 games, but I think that type of rebuild really has it's benefits. The Suns are so far away from being worth a damn if they stay on the development path. They have an absolute stud though and that is the biggest thing in a rebuild. They probably need to pick a couple assets/young players to sell off and get some solid players. And figure out the coaching situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Here's the thing about rebuilds that I've realized. There are so many steps. Winning in the NBA is so effing hard. It's why NFL fans don't appreciate. Step 1: Getting high end talent (can take 1-3 years) Step 2: That high end talent paying off (can take 1-3 years realistically) Step 3: Making sure the high end talent is in the right culture with the right coach Step 4: Getting the right pieces around your high end talent to best fit their playing style Step 5: Your team learning how to close out games and win against veterans (been 1+ year process for nuggets) Step 6: Your team becoming consistent on a night to night basis This all has to happen before a young team can become a legitimate playoff team. Minnesota traded for a top 10 player to get to where they are right now and I could still see them losing in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 go figure. That idiot was just making stuff up as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 33 minutes ago, champ11 said: People were crapping on the Nuggets for doing the half-*** rebuild thing bc they kept solid vets that had trade value and put a competent team out there to win 30-40 games, but I think that type of rebuild really has it's benefits. The Suns are so far away from being worth a damn if they stay on the development path. They have an absolute stud though and that is the biggest thing in a rebuild. They probably need to pick a couple assets/young players to sell off and get some solid players. And figure out the coaching situation. They should see if Charlotte really won't trade Walker unless it's for an All-Star. Anything but Phoenix's 1st this year on the table. Phoenix receives: Kemba Walker Dwight Howard Michael Carter-Williams Trevor Graham Charlotte receives: Greg Monroe Tyson Chandler Dragan Bender Tyler Ulis 2018 Miami 1st Round Pick 2018 Milwaukee 1st Round Pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Phoenix receives: Kemba Walker Dwight Howard Michael Carter-Williams Trevor Graham Charlotte receives: Greg Monroe Tyson Chandler Dragan Bender Tyler Ulis 2018 Miami 1st Round Pick 2018 Milwaukee 1st Round Pick This seems like a NBA 2K trade lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 this dude just doesn’t get it... team needs a boost in the starting lineup so he brings in one of the worst players in the league and kills what little spacing we had. TT and love don’t work together. They’re too small and too limited. And he keeps jr in the starting lineup? We’ve got korver wade and cedi all better than him and he keeps that turd in. I hate lue and wish bad things on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: this dude just doesn’t get it... team needs a boost in the starting lineup so he brings in one of the worst players in the league and kills what little spacing we had. TT and love don’t work together. They’re too small and too limited. And he keeps jr in the starting lineup? We’ve got korver wade and cedi all better than him and he keeps that turd in. I hate lue and wish bad things on him. I don't have a problem with this move. Gives you guys more size and rebounding. Love at C only works if LeBron is active on the boars because Crowder gets dominated in that area. LeBron isn't going to play hard enough for it to work. Really, he needs to be playing full time PF at this stage of his career but obviously doesn't want to. JR isn't hitting shots and not defending and probably wouldn't be playing much for most playoff teams, but some how he keeps starting in Cleveland lol. If the Hill trade goes down, you could just start him and bring JR off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: I don't have a problem with this move. Gives you guys more size and rebounding. Love at C only works if LeBron is active on the boars because Crowder gets dominated in that area. LeBron isn't going to play hard enough for it to work. Really, he needs to be playing full time PF at this stage of his career but obviously doesn't want to. JR isn't hitting shots and not defending and probably wouldn't be playing much for most playoff teams, but some how he keeps starting in Cleveland lol. If the Hill trade goes down, you could just start him and bring JR off the bench. TT doesn’t provide size though. He doesn’t alter any shots he can’t switch anymore and he’s not a good defensive rebounder. Dudes shoot right over him. Same with Kevin. Having 2 of those guys on the floor together with one who’s a complete zero on offense is making your team worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyronnosaurus Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 14 hours ago, dante9876 said: Sam Dekker is awful. He isn' gonna last long in the league. The fact that Houston got a hall of famer for 4 role players is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tyronnosaurus said: The fact that Houston got a hall of famer for 4 role players is a disgrace. I mean CP3 was a free agent, they got something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: go figure. That idiot was just making stuff up as always to be fair, that was someone's interpretation of what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J-ALL-DAY Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, showtime said: Wow lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersuavesky Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 hours ago, seminoles1 said: They should see if Charlotte really won't trade Walker unless it's for an All-Star. Anything but Phoenix's 1st this year on the table. Phoenix receives: Kemba Walker Dwight Howard Michael Carter-Williams Trevor Graham Charlotte receives: Greg Monroe Tyson Chandler Dragan Bender Tyler Ulis 2018 Miami 1st Round Pick 2018 Milwaukee 1st Round Pick I think they're serious. They won't take mid to late first because they don't trust themselves in drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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