2021-2022 NBA GDT Thread: Wolf Pit Assemble

[Deadpulse]

9 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said:

'm really not sure who would be the correct choice at #5 but just gave it to CP3

you aren't alone but the drop off is big according to pro basketball reference 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html

Rk	Player	Team	W	L	W/L%	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS		Prob%
1	Giannis Antetokounmpo	MIL	18	10	.643	25	25	32.6	9.6	18.2	.531	1.1	3.9	.289	8.5	14.3	.597	.562	6.9	10.2	.678	2.1	9.6	11.7	5.9	1.1	1.6	3.3	3.1	27.3		23.5%
2	Stephen Curry	GSW	21	5	.808	25	25	34.2	8.8	20.3	.433	5.4	13.4	.404	3.4	7.0	.489	.566	4.1	4.4	.927	0.7	4.9	5.6	6.3	1.7	0.4	3.1	1.8	27.1		21.3%
3	Nikola Jokić	DEN	13	13	.500	21	21	32.9	10.5	18.0	.582	1.7	4.6	.371	8.8	13.4	.655	.630	3.8	5.1	.748	2.4	11.1	13.5	7.2	1.2	0.8	3.4	2.6	26.5		21.0%
4	Kevin Durant	BRK	19	8	.704	25	25	36.5	10.6	20.1	.529	1.8	4.8	.383	8.8	15.3	.574	.575	6.3	7.2	.877	0.5	7.1	7.6	5.6	0.7	0.8	3.2	1.8	29.4		11.8%
5	Chris Paul	PHO	21	4	.840	25	25	32.3	5.2	10.8	.480	1.0	3.0	.333	4.2	7.8	.536	.526	3.1	3.7	.828	0.3	3.6	3.9	10.2	2.0	0.4	2.4	2.1	14.4		8.1%
6	Rudy Gobert	UTA	19	7	.731	26	26	31.6	5.4	7.4	.734	0.0	0.0	.000	5.4	7.3	.738	.734	4.2	6.2	.679	3.1	11.5	14.6	0.9	0.8	2.2	1.8	2.7	15.1		6.8%
7	James Harden	BRK	19	8	.704	26	26	36.2	5.9	14.7	.404	2.5	7.3	.337	3.5	7.3	.471	.488	6.5	7.4	.885	0.9	7.0	7.9	9.6	1.4	0.7	5.0	2.4	20.8		3.3%
8	Jarrett Allen	CLE	16	12	.571	25	25	33.3	7.0	10.0	.707	0.0	0.2	.167	7.0	9.7	.720	.709	3.2	4.5	.708	3.2	8.0	11.2	1.8	1.0	1.4	2.0	1.8	17.3		1.4%
9	Donovan Mitchell	UTA	19	7	.731	25	25	32.4	9.2	20.2	.455	3.3	9.3	.352	5.9	10.9	.542	.536	3.1	3.5	.885	0.9	3.0	3.8	5.0	1.7	0.2	3.0	2.4	24.8		1.4%
10	DeMar DeRozan	CHI	17	10	.630	24	24	35.3	9.5	19.0	.498	0.8	2.5	.333	8.6	16.5	.523	.520	6.6	7.5	.888	0.6	4.7	5.3	4.1	0.9	0.4	2.0

[J-ALL-DAY]

3 minutes ago, Deadpulse said:

you aren't alone but the drop off is big according to pro basketball reference 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html

Rk	Player	Team	W	L	W/L%	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS		Prob%
1	Giannis Antetokounmpo	MIL	18	10	.643	25	25	32.6	9.6	18.2	.531	1.1	3.9	.289	8.5	14.3	.597	.562	6.9	10.2	.678	2.1	9.6	11.7	5.9	1.1	1.6	3.3	3.1	27.3		23.5%
2	Stephen Curry	GSW	21	5	.808	25	25	34.2	8.8	20.3	.433	5.4	13.4	.404	3.4	7.0	.489	.566	4.1	4.4	.927	0.7	4.9	5.6	6.3	1.7	0.4	3.1	1.8	27.1		21.3%
3	Nikola Jokić	DEN	13	13	.500	21	21	32.9	10.5	18.0	.582	1.7	4.6	.371	8.8	13.4	.655	.630	3.8	5.1	.748	2.4	11.1	13.5	7.2	1.2	0.8	3.4	2.6	26.5		21.0%
4	Kevin Durant	BRK	19	8	.704	25	25	36.5	10.6	20.1	.529	1.8	4.8	.383	8.8	15.3	.574	.575	6.3	7.2	.877	0.5	7.1	7.6	5.6	0.7	0.8	3.2	1.8	29.4		11.8%
5	Chris Paul	PHO	21	4	.840	25	25	32.3	5.2	10.8	.480	1.0	3.0	.333	4.2	7.8	.536	.526	3.1	3.7	.828	0.3	3.6	3.9	10.2	2.0	0.4	2.4	2.1	14.4		8.1%
6	Rudy Gobert	UTA	19	7	.731	26	26	31.6	5.4	7.4	.734	0.0	0.0	.000	5.4	7.3	.738	.734	4.2	6.2	.679	3.1	11.5	14.6	0.9	0.8	2.2	1.8	2.7	15.1		6.8%
7	James Harden	BRK	19	8	.704	26	26	36.2	5.9	14.7	.404	2.5	7.3	.337	3.5	7.3	.471	.488	6.5	7.4	.885	0.9	7.0	7.9	9.6	1.4	0.7	5.0	2.4	20.8		3.3%
8	Jarrett Allen	CLE	16	12	.571	25	25	33.3	7.0	10.0	.707	0.0	0.2	.167	7.0	9.7	.720	.709	3.2	4.5	.708	3.2	8.0	11.2	1.8	1.0	1.4	2.0	1.8	17.3		1.4%
9	Donovan Mitchell	UTA	19	7	.731	25	25	32.4	9.2	20.2	.455	3.3	9.3	.352	5.9	10.9	.542	.536	3.1	3.5	.885	0.9	3.0	3.8	5.0	1.7	0.2	3.0	2.4	24.8		1.4%
10	DeMar DeRozan	CHI	17	10	.630	24	24	35.3	9.5	19.0	.498	0.8	2.5	.333	8.6	16.5	.523	.520	6.6	7.5	.888	0.6	4.7	5.3	4.1	0.9	0.4	2.0

Oh wow, Allen at #8? Dude has been great along with Mobley but that's kind of high? Harden at #7 still? Crazy, looks like a shell of his prime self but still effective due to his skill level. 

[Kip Smithers]

Don’t know how Steph isn’t the clear front runner right now with KD behind him. Steph has his share of poor shooting games this season whether they win or lose yet because of the way he opens up everything, I am not gonna penalise him for bad shooting nights. 

[J-ALL-DAY]

14 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said:

Don’t know how Steph isn’t the clear front runner right now with KD behind him. Steph has his share of poor shooting games this season whether they win or lose yet because of the way he opens up everything, I am not gonna penalise him for bad shooting nights. 

Durant has been more consistent and he's also the #1 seed in his conference with a team let's be real, is not all that talented....Especially with Harden being good but far from special. 

@TheRealMcCoyso has THT taken a leap defensively or what? Watched him earlier in the season and was not impressed but the last few games he has been very active and seems to be taking the challenge. 

[catcheryea]

dave do you know how easy it is to just lie

[redsoxsuck05]

19 hours ago, seminoles1 said:

I don't get why anyone believed this. Zion has had weight issues since high school. The dude balloons up so easily.

It's not the most unfeasible thing to gain weight after breaking your foot. Unfortunately Zion is just a BBM.

[Sllim Pickens]

2 hours ago, catcheryea said:

dave do you know how easy it is to just lie

If you have an All Star caliber player, you build around him.  We need another one with him, but he is absolutely someone you build around. I don't disagree we could use an upgrade at PG, but also just need an upgrade at every position aside from Cade.  Having some outside shooting would help though.  Bey turning into a turd really hurts, well sort of, because it helps us be more likely to get a top pick and he isn't a #2 type guy but more of a 6th man would be his ideal role.   

[J-ALL-DAY]

30 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

If you have an All Star caliber player, you build around him.  We need another one with him, but he is absolutely someone you build around. I don't disagree we could use an upgrade at PG, but also just need an upgrade at every position aside from Cade.  Having some outside shooting would help though.  Bey turning into a turd really hurts, well sort of, because it helps us be more likely to get a top pick and he isn't a #2 type guy but more of a 6th man would be his ideal role.   

He's the truth. Please build a good team around him! 

Speaking of being the truth, Ingram is having another all star caliber season. Hate Zion for being the fat a$$ he is for ruining it for Ingram. They could legitimately compete on a daily basis and at least be in contention for the play in with Zion but nooooooooooppppppppppeeeeeeee! That fat a$$ has other plans SMH. 

[Sllim Pickens]

35 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said:

He's the truth. Please build a good team around him! 

I'm hoping we end up with Paolo, Jabari, or Chet and then trade Grant and Olynyk for cap space and sign Lavine.  Lavine being only 26 would still be good enough at 28 when Cade and whoever we draft this year have developed.  Another option would be adding Miles Bridges but don't think his fit is as good as Lavine would be.  

[NYRaider]

30 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

I'm hoping we end up with Paolo, Jabari, or Chet and then trade Grant and Olynyk for cap space and sign Lavine.  Lavine being only 26 would still be good enough at 28 when Cade and whoever we draft this year have developed.  Another option would be adding Miles Bridges but don't think his fit is as good as Lavine would be.  

Why would Lavine leave Chicago and take less money to play in Detroit?

[catcheryea]

1 hour ago, Sllim Pickens said:

If you have an All Star caliber player, you build around him.  We need another one with him, but he is absolutely someone you build around. I don't disagree we could use an upgrade at PG, but also just need an upgrade at every position aside from Cade.  Having some outside shooting would help though.  Bey turning into a turd really hurts, well sort of, because it helps us be more likely to get a top pick and he isn't a #2 type guy but more of a 6th man would be his ideal role.   

my slightly warm saddiq take entering the season was that an above average outcome for his career would be jae crowder

[Sllim Pickens]

19 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

Why would Lavine leave Chicago and take less money to play in Detroit?

Maybe its a sign and trade.  If he doesn't want to be there they can take Grant and Olynyk for him.  Also don't they have to make some moves to keep him given the contracts they gave Ball, Caruso and Derozan? 

[NYRaider]

4 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

Maybe its a sign and trade.  If he doesn't want to be there they can take Grant and Olynyk for him.  Also don't they have to make some moves to keep him given the contracts they gave Ball, Caruso and Derozan? 

They have Lavine's bird rights so they can offer him a 5 year max and go into the luxury tax to extend him. For him to be signed and traded it would have to be a team he wants to go too because he's an unrestricted free agent. I can't imagine that Lavine, in his prime, would want to leave an emerging team that's currently 3rd in the East to play for a rebuilding team in a small market that has the worst record in the league.

Edited December 13, 2021 by NYRaider

[catcheryea]

52 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

I'm hoping we end up with Paolo, Jabari, or Chet and then trade Grant and Olynyk for cap space and sign Lavine.  Lavine being only 26 would still be good enough at 28 when Cade and whoever we draft this year have developed.  Another option would be adding Miles Bridges but don't think his fit is as good as Lavine would be.  

i've seen some people bring up the idea of signing ayton in the offseason.i wouldn't give him a full max but i'd do somewhere between $25-28 million probably. i think he'd be a great roll guy with cade and would still fit paolo or jabari

depending how the rest of the year goes for killian i'd also be down move on and draft ivey if we end up picking outside the top 2 

[seminoles1]

4 minutes ago, catcheryea said:

i've seen some people bring up the idea of signing ayton in the offseason.i wouldn't give him a full max but i'd do somewhere between $25-28 million probably. i think he'd be a great roll guy with cade and would still fit paolo or jabari

Phoenix would match that offer in a heartbeat.