kingseanjohn Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Chiefer said: Kadarius Toney on the trade block, any takers? Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 23 hours ago, Chiefer said: Its 2022, its a passing league, were gonna need more to compete now and intot he future. Especially in this stocked conference and in a world where teams skate by on the cap margin to fill their teams with elite name talent Mahomes will make most competent WR's better than they would be with most other QB's. JuJu with Rothlisberger? HaHa. We'll see how he stacks up with PMII. Same for Scandling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Chiefs_5627 said: Seems like Veach is in full draft mode right now and is prepared to build out the team through the draft. GOOD !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Chiefer said: Kelce is 33 and not under contract past 2023, like most of our receiving corp, which is kinda the whole point im making in that were gonna need to keep building towards the future by continuing to accumulate Elite talent. Some people like to deny that and say all we need is Mahomes and a Top 10 OL, absolute silliness Im just pointing out trends, people can deny em if they want. I think for this year were solid, maybe. Juju has chronic knee issues, Hardman has had serious confidence/trust issues, MVS is a career 3rd/4th option, and Kelce is turning 33. I honestly dont see where the confidence is coming from but hey, we might just be okay with that + Mahomes. Maybe. I just hate the whole “Well Tom Brady and Belicheck did it with xyz players” yeah and that was also 4 years ago and worked against Jared Goff led SB teams. Mahomes/Reid are definitely not Brady/Belicheck either, never will be. Again, I've said I think we absolutely should draft someone and likely plan to. I just don't think we absolutely need an elite guy. Like, if we draft a guy who can ultimately perform like a Tyler Lockett or an A.J. Brown or a Keenan Allen, a guy who isn't some elite dominant threat, but is a solid #1 or a great #2, and then you pair that with complementary pieces like Juju, MVS, Hardman, etc., I think that is more than sufficient. You don't hard need an elite name. Maybe you're just throwing around the word elite more casually than I do, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Chiefer said: Kadarius Toney on the trade block, any takers? 100% depends on cost. We have enough picks in this draft that I'd have no problem throwing a 5th or 6th at it. If it's the kind of thing where they just want something rather than nothing from cutting him, sure. Talent is there, you just hope the culture change makes an impact, and that's the point in the draft where you're fine with low floor high ceiling guys anyways (see: Tyreek.) If they want an actual meaningful return though, I'd be out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, mayanfootball said: Mahomes will make most competent WR's better than they would be with most other QB's. JuJu with Rothlisberger? HaHa. We'll see how he stacks up with PMII. Same for Scandling My worry is the knee issue is chrnic with Juju and hes only ever been a good 2nd option. MVS was with Rodgers, a 2-time recently MVP, so that definitely can stack up with PMII lol 14 hours ago, Jakuvious said: Again, I've said I think we absolutely should draft someone and likely plan to. I just don't think we absolutely need an elite guy. Like, if we draft a guy who can ultimately perform like a Tyler Lockett or an A.J. Brown or a Keenan Allen, a guy who isn't some elite dominant threat, but is a solid #1 or a great #2, and then you pair that with complementary pieces like Juju, MVS, Hardman, etc., I think that is more than sufficient. You don't hard need an elite name. Maybe you're just throwing around the word elite more casually than I do, I dunno. But thats only for one season, and theres a lot of question marks with the current talent level we have now. im thinking beyond. Were not gonna be able to hold this corp together, and Kelce is old and will decline at some point. We need to continue finding Elite weapons. Mainly I want a guy that when the whole world is watching can go out and make a play to win the game. Only guy we have who can consistently do that rn is Kelce. Unless we want to go back to Mahomes performing Carson Wentz heroball all the time to save us. No thanks. Also i dont think Keenan Allen and Tyler Lockett are that guy. Aj Brown I think is though. Also, AJ brown isnt dominant? Really? Dudes a beast! Edited April 23, 2022 by Chiefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 23, 2022 Author Share Posted April 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Chiefer said: But thats only for one season, and theres a lot of question marks with the current talent level we have now. im thinking beyond. Were not gonna be able to hold this corp together, and Kelce is old and will decline at some point. We need to continue finding Elite weapons. Mainly I want a guy that when the whole world is watching can go out and make a play to win the game. Only guy we have who can consistently do that rn is Kelce. Unless we want to go back to Mahomes performing Carson Wentz heroball all the time to save us. No thanks. Also i dont think Keenan Allen and Tyler Lockett are that guy. Aj Brown I think is though. Also, AJ brown isnt dominant? Really? Dudes a beast! It's not only for one season. The whole point is that it's sustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMAW_KSU Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 8:02 PM, mayanfootball said: We'll see how he stacks up with PMII. Same for Scandling Rumor in the block is that MVS’ old QB was fairly good. Though he has some WICKED tunnel vision for his number 1 guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, onejayhawk said: It's not only for one season. The whole point is that it's sustainable. It is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Chiefer said: It is? Exactly. Finding a succession of great players is not guaranteed. Finding several good players is more doable. For example, look at how New England, New Orleans, Green Bay, Baltimore always have premium OL without spending premium picks. They keep bringing in new blood in later rounds and developing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 9:16 PM, Jakuvious said: 100% depends on cost. We have enough picks in this draft that I'd have no problem throwing a 5th or 6th at it. If it's the kind of thing where they just want something rather than nothing from cutting him, sure. Talent is there, you just hope the culture change makes an impact, and that's the point in the draft where you're fine with low floor high ceiling guys anyways (see: Tyreek.) If they want an actual meaningful return though, I'd be out. Toney was on my personal non-draftable board last year. I didn’t like him then and I don’t like him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 Interesting article on pass rush philosophy. Over the years, Spagnuolo has developed a template for defensive limemen--long, lean, able to slide inside. The template didn't fit Melvin Ingram nor does it fit Mike Danna, Chris Jones, or Tershawn Wharton. Is the template changing?https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/the_chiefs_can_alter_their_pass_rush_philosophy_via_the_draft/s1_16631_37433317 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Chiefs to get D. Samuel? I could get on board with that. KC might have to pay him $20million/yr.. But KC might give it to him since Tyreek wouldn't take it apparantly.. https://www.nfl.com/news/deebo-samuel-requests-trade-10-potential-landing-spots-for-san-francisco-49ers-s Edited April 24, 2022 by mayanfootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 The final (?) round of analysts picks prior to the draft. #29 Player & Position School Source DB Jalen Pitre Baylor Doug Farrar – Touchdown Wire EDGE George Karlaftis Purdue Luke Easterling – Draft Wire S Daxton Hill (Trade) Michigan Chad Reuter – NFL.com Trade Down N/A Maurice Jones-Drew – NFL.com EDGE George Karlaftis Purdue Peter Schrager – NFL.com S Daxton Hill Michigan Mike Kaye – Pro Football Network WR Jahan Dotson Penn State Marcus Mosher – The Game Day IOL Kenyon Green Texas A&M Chris Trapasso – CBS Sports WR Jahan Dotson Penn State Eric Eager – Pro Football Focus CB Kaiir Elam Florida Thor Nystrom – NBC Sports #30 Player & Position School Source DT Devonte Wyatt Georgia Doug Farrar – Touchdown Wire CB Kyler Gordon Washington Luke Easterling – Draft Wire WR George Pickens Georgia Chad Reuter – NFL.com EDGE George Karlaftis Purdue Maurice Jones-Drew – NFL.com CB Kyler Gordon Washington Peter Schrager – NFL.com EDGE David Ojabo Michigan Mike Kaye – Pro Football Network S Daxton Hill Michigan Marcus Mosher – The Game Day WR Christian Watson North Dakota State Chris Trapasso – CBS Sports S Daxton Hill Michigan Eric Eager – Pro Football Focus WR Treylon Burks Arkansas Thor Nystrom – NBC Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, mayanfootball said: Chiefs to get D. Samuel? I could get on board with that. KC might have to pay him $20million/yr.. But KC might give it to him since Tyreek wouldn't take it apparantly.. https://www.nfl.com/news/deebo-samuel-requests-trade-10-potential-landing-spots-for-san-francisco-49ers-s He's a yac machine but it's reported that the 9ers are gonna want the moon and stars to acquire him plus then we'd have to pay him big $$. I just don't see it happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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