bucsfan333 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, indifference said: I'm indifferent. I'm shocked, I tell ya. Absolutely shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybucsfan31 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 13 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: I'm shocked, I tell ya. Absolutely shocked. I'm embarrassed to say that it took me a good five minutes to get this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I wonder how the Winston situation will impact on Koetter, especially with a QB heavy draft coming up. If we do move on from Winston, he might get another crack at it with another first round QB. However, if this is true, I think that’s it for Licht. I can’t see the Glazers renewing a guy who took a calculated risk on Winston’s character and got it wrong. Unfortunately for Koetter, no Licht probably means he’s fired. The franchise is in an exceptionally tough position. I think they’d be right to move on from Winston if he’s found to have done this, however given there were two people in the car, I don’t think we’ll ever know for certain what happened. What do the Glazers do if we get to that position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, Buc Ball said: I wonder how the Winston situation will impact on Koetter, especially with a QB heavy draft coming up. If we do move on from Winston, he might get another crack at it with another first round QB. However, if this is true, I think that’s it for Licht. I can’t see the Glazers renewing a guy who took a calculated risk on Winston’s character and got it wrong. Unfortunately for Koetter, no Licht probably means he’s fired. The franchise is in an exceptionally tough position. I think they’d be right to move on from Winston if he’s found to have done this, however given there were two people in the car, I don’t think we’ll ever know for certain what happened. What do the Glazers do if we get to that position? Honestly unless this team closes 9-7, licht is cooked and won't be renewed. His ballsy decision making has cost this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuces22wild Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9347/dirk-koetter Multiple league sources tell The Ringer’s Mike Lombardi that Bucs coach Dirk Koetter’s job is in jeopardy. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9270/jon-gruden Pewter Report’s Scott Reynolds believes there’s "interest on both sides" between the Bucs and Jon Gruden. There you go boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 I feel like the "Grumors" would be a lot different if Jameis were suspended indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 21 hours ago, Buc Ball said: I wonder how the Winston situation will impact on Koetter, especially with a QB heavy draft coming up. If we do move on from Winston, he might get another crack at it with another first round QB. However, if this is true, I think that’s it for Licht. I can’t see the Glazers renewing a guy who took a calculated risk on Winston’s character and got it wrong. Unfortunately for Koetter, no Licht probably means he’s fired. The franchise is in an exceptionally tough position. I think they’d be right to move on from Winston if he’s found to have done this, however given there were two people in the car, I don’t think we’ll ever know for certain what happened. What do the Glazers do if we get to that position? I think the house gets cleaned because of Jameis. Reflects poorly on the GM and HC. The HC will more so be a casualty of the GM and not get a 3rd year to prove this was a fluke down year. The fact that we could have 1. New GM/HC 2. QB heavy draft 3. Top draft pick 4. Serious questions on James' character at the very least 5. 1-2 years away from a $100MM contract extension for Jameis.... all this makes me wonder if its the perfect storm to do something unprecedented. Trade a 23 year old, potential franchise QB. Sure this sets the team back, potentially, but if we deal out $100MM to Jameis and he pulls some other stupid crap, then we are actually screwed as a franchise. A new GM who has no ties to Jameis can't feel comfortable giving him the kind of money he'll want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, bucsfan333 said: I feel like the "Grumors" would be a lot different if Jameis were suspended indefinitely. If we have a top pick with tons of QBs coming out in the draft, I still think Gruden would want to come back. Not saying I prefer him, but I think he'd still want to come back. We have TONS of offensive talent, but need to sure up the lines. Draft say, Lamar Jackson, someone who Gruden could continue to develop as a pocket passer, and man the offense could really be unstoppable. If Jameis is shipped out and we had the chance, with the improved passing of Lamar, id be tempted. I don't think he's Vick 2.0 in the passing department. Why wouldn't Gruden wan to work with him and our offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Lil' Shorty said: If we have a top pick with tons of QBs coming out in the draft, I still think Gruden would want to come back. Not saying I prefer him, but I think he'd still want to come back. We have TONS of offensive talent, but need to sure up the lines. Draft say, Lamar Jackson, someone who Gruden could continue to develop as a pocket passer, and man the offense could really be unstoppable. If Jameis is shipped out and we had the chance, with the improved passing of Lamar, id be tempted. I don't think he's Vick 2.0 in the passing department. Why wouldn't Gruden wan to work with him and our offense? I don't think think Lamar Jackson is a guy you can develop quickly. And has gruden really warmed up to younger qbs? The guys in this draft to me are all raw. I like darnold but he's not ready to play in the NFL. He needs to clean up a lot. Rosen is probably the most NFL ready guy but there are concerns that players don't like him that are his teammates. Interceptions with him and darnold concern me Jackson has a ton of upside and I like him but he's not ready to play. Josh Allen is what you call a developmental guy with upside. He's got sloppy mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Matt Patricia should get a head coaching job soon, if not there is something very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, ravishingone said: Matt Patricia should get a head coaching job soon, if not there is something very wrong. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Good to know Dorsey wants back in the game. The Glazers have to get the GM pick right. There is no indication of them changing their business model by adding a President, so I have no issue going retread at GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Here's the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xlfrosti Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/18/2017 at 10:53 PM, Lil' Shorty said: I think the house gets cleaned because of Jameis. Reflects poorly on the GM and HC. The HC will more so be a casualty of the GM and not get a 3rd year to prove this was a fluke down year. The fact that we could have 1. New GM/HC 2. QB heavy draft 3. Top draft pick 4. Serious questions on James' character at the very least 5. 1-2 years away from a $100MM contract extension for Jameis.... all this makes me wonder if its the perfect storm to do something unprecedented. Trade a 23 year old, potential franchise QB. Sure this sets the team back, potentially, but if we deal out $100MM to Jameis and he pulls some other stupid crap, then we are actually screwed as a franchise. A new GM who has no ties to Jameis can't feel comfortable giving him the kind of money he'll want. So let's say this happens and they want to trade Winston. Now how much would we ask in return for trading him? BTW if we do bring in Gruden and a new GM then who would go to the OC and DC side. That's another question to answer also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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