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Will Levis or an offensive linemen is a good way to make us puke at Pick 7. Brod, Paris, Skor would be miles better picks at 7 than Arnette at 19 or Leatherwood at 17. But Levis at 7 might just be the worst pick in our history. He has no business going in the 1st. But McD did take Tim frickin Tebow in the 1st Round, Tebow had no business what so ever going before the third. 

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6 minutes ago, BayRaider said:

Will Levis or an offensive linemen is a good way to make us puke at Pick 7. Brod, Paris, Skor would be miles better picks at 7 than Arnette at 19 or Leatherwood at 17. But Levis at 7 might just be the worst pick in our history. He has no business going in the 1st. But McD did take Tim frickin Tebow in the 1st Round, Tebow had no business what so ever going before the third. 

Not even top 5. 

Levis is a better QB than everyone wants to give credit for. The twitter/forum group think with him is out of control on him. 

He's going higher than most think. And he's has as good a chance as any of the other guys to be the top QB in this class with the right development. 

 

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7 minutes ago, big_palooka said:

Not even top 5. 

Levis is a better QB than everyone wants to give credit for. The twitter/forum group think with him is out of control on him. 

He's going higher than most think. And he's has as good a chance as any of the other guys to be the top QB in this class with the right development. 

 

18 hours ago, BayRaider said:

It’s an interesting QB class.

CJ Stroud - 

Safest QB prospect, should be at least a middle-of-pack starter at worst in the 15-17 range. His ceiling is also good but not as high as the other three imo. His ceiling is that 8-10 range under a good coach. Like I don’t see Stroud ever being in that Elite Tier of QB’s. He just doesn’t have that skillset. Doesn’t have a laser arm. He’s not this insanely smart QB like Young (not dumb either though). If you look at 2 years of tape and not the Georgia game, he’s really bad under pressure and a below average play extender. The Georgia game gives you hope though. But Stroud has all the things you need for a good quality starter. He has a very solid arm, he’s extremely accurate, his mechanics and footwork are superb, and he has good size at 6’3”. But Stroud is also a guy that’s always gonna need a great OL and great weapons unlike Richardson/Young who have plenty of off-script superstar type ability. 

My comparison: A premium version of Jared Goff, Derek Carr, and Dak Prescott. He has a lot of those guys pros and weaknesses. 

Bryce Young - 

The size is the biggest issue here. Can he stay durable? And can he see the middle of the field consistently? Something we know Wilson/Murray have always struggled with. Brees never struggled with it but Brees is 6’ while Wilson is 5’11 and Murray is 5’10. Bryce Young will never bust completely, he’s too good. But there is a possibility his floor is an average to slightly below average QB if he can’t stay healthy and also can’t overcome his size limitations like reading the middle of the field. But Bryce’s ceiling? I think Bryce’s ceiling is Elite Tier a hair behind names like Allen, Mahomes, and Burrow. Young’s play extension ability is amazing… it’s like Curry’s 3 point ability. Bryce can make something out of nothing every play. He’s also amazing in the redzone, has a good (not great) arm, solid pocket awareness, and extremely high football IQ. Bryce might turn into one of the best players in the league, and maybe the funnest player in the league. I’m excited to see what he does. 

Comparison: Very unique guy. I don’t have a comp but If I had to say one, I’d probably say he’s a little bit of Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers combo. Moreso Wilson. But really Bryce is unique and I don’t think we’ve seen someone like him before. 

Anthony Richardson -

I mean, if you build a QB in a lab he’s the dude. 6’4 1/2, 240, 4.4 speed, LASER frickin arm. Cam Size, Lamar Speed, Herbert Arm. Richardson day one arm strength is on par with Mahomes and Herbert and only behind Allen, who has a generational arm. Richardson also isn’t as raw as Levis. Richardson does make solid progressions sometimes. He is also is very POISE in the pocket and doesn’t panic. He also is a very intelligent QB and scored highest except for Bryce on the cognitive tests and in the 90th percent tile all time. Richardson can throw dimes deep as well, absolute beautiful dimes. He really needs to work on redzone accuracy and 15 yard accuracy, both of which are pretty bad. Richardson’s ceiling is the highest of the class by far. His ceiling is Mahomes, Allen, Burrow Top 4-5 QB in the league level. Although his floor is complete bust. I like Richardson a lot. I think there’s a 30-35% chance he can become the next Elite QB. 30% chance on the next great? Sign me up. And a solid 45% chance he can become at least a Top 10 QB. 

Comparison: You cook Lamar and Cam together and throw some Josh Allen seasoning at the end. 

Will Levis -

I don’t think Will Levis should be a 1st Round Pick. He has a great arm (although was throwing tons of ducks at his pro day), good (not great) mobility, and great size. Good prototypical QB to try to develop. But boy oh boy he’s a mess. Unlike Richardson, the flashes are almost non-existent. He panics in the pocket. When he has to go to a second read, he panics a vast majority of the time. He’s extremely uncomfortable going through progressions. He’s extremely uncomfortable with pressure. He is extremely inaccurate, especially deep balls. A lot of times just seems lost mentally. His mechanics are bad. This dude is a mess and I’m not sure how anyone can think him and Richardson are on the same level as Project QB’s. I do not think Levis has the mental makeup to succeed in the league. 

Comparison: Kyle Boller. Laser arm. Great athlete at the QB position. Good size. That’s it. The mental stuff is a disaster. And it has nothing to do with “knowledge”. 

I like the Top 3 QB’s a lot. I would rank them:

Bryce Young 1a

Anthony Richardson 1b

CJ Stroud 1c 

They are all neck and neck for me personally. I would love for the Raiders to nab one of them. 

Most would have Stroud above Richardson, but you need an Elite QB in this league to win championships most of the time. The ingredient list for that championship (a vast majority of the time) is Top 5-6 Elite Superstar QB and a Top 10-12 defense. The days of needing a #1 defense to win a ring do not hold true these days. Defense is still more important than offense in the playoffs, but you need that superstar QB as well. 

 

57 minutes ago, BayRaider said:

Levis wouldn't know how to throw with anticipation if it hit him in the head. He's an "open and throw" QB like Derek Carr, Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, Jimmy G. He just doesn't have that anticipation skill. The other four in this draft do have it. Levis isn't gonna make WR's open. He's not gonna take over a football game if everything is going wrong. 

 

 

My thoughts on Levis. 

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2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

I think he goes mid-late teens personally. 

Most likely, yes, but some of the teams in that range (e.g. Washington, Tampa Bay, etc.) could be distracted by, among other possibilities, a top 5 QB falling too far. 

This could be an absolutely bizarro draft.

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37 minutes ago, big_palooka said:

Not even top 5. 

Levis is a better QB than everyone wants to give credit for. The twitter/forum group think with him is out of control on him. 

He's going higher than most think. And he's has as good a chance as any of the other guys to be the top QB in this class with the right development. 

 

We haven't been agreeing on much recently, but I wholeheartedly think this is true. Levi gives me the same vibes as so many other recent QB's who weren't great at any one particular thing, fell in the draft and became very good in the league. Herbert, Mac Jones, maybe Hurts, even Daniel Jones. 

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