3rivers Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 with no more draft or UFA talk, they have clickbait like this. imagine if it happened though? I can't see the cap situation allowing this though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I, personally, never though the Kenny Magic would translate to the league the way it did at the end. Still going to be some ups and downs (Dolphins results vs Ravens results), but if you want an elite QB -- you NEED to be clutch and have the ability to make something out of nothing. Carr and Kirk -- don't have that. I look at QB play as 80/20. 80% of the time you need to be boring and follow the play and execute what you need to execute. But then there is that 20% of being able to kick open a door that doesn't exist to make something for yourself. Elite QBs are the full 100%. Kenny showed the 20% last year, but I want to see him be a BAQ (Boring A** Quarterback) this season that brings out that elite playmaker when he needs to. I still very much have questions about that 80%. That's not the part of football that he has excelled at going back to college. But if he can improve upon that, dudes got top 10 written all over him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 20 hours ago, Dcash4 said: I, personally, never though the Kenny Magic would translate to the league the way it did at the end. Still going to be some ups and downs (Dolphins results vs Ravens results), but if you want an elite QB -- you NEED to be clutch and have the ability to make something out of nothing. Carr and Kirk -- don't have that. I look at QB play as 80/20. 80% of the time you need to be boring and follow the play and execute what you need to execute. But then there is that 20% of being able to kick open a door that doesn't exist to make something for yourself. Elite QBs are the full 100%. Kenny showed the 20% last year, but I want to see him be a BAQ (Boring A** Quarterback) this season that brings out that elite playmaker when he needs to. I still very much have questions about that 80%. That's not the part of football that he has excelled at going back to college. But if he can improve upon that, dudes got top 10 written all over him. Well said. I will add that one of the biggest things Kenny needs to work on moving forward is deciding *when* to bring out the Superman cape and when to stay inside of structure and go through his reads. If he can master that ability to only extend plays and make “magic” happen when it’s necessary I think we will see a much improved QB. With that being said, guys like Mahomes and Allen still break out of structure too early all the time. But they of course are on a different level than Kenny. But I still think Kenny can do some of the same stuff those guys do. His accuracy while on the run might already be top 10 in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 12:08 PM, Dcash4 said: I, personally, never though the Kenny Magic would translate to the league the way it did at the end. Still going to be some ups and downs (Dolphins results vs Ravens results), but if you want an elite QB -- you NEED to be clutch and have the ability to make something out of nothing. Carr and Kirk -- don't have that. I look at QB play as 80/20. 80% of the time you need to be boring and follow the play and execute what you need to execute. But then there is that 20% of being able to kick open a door that doesn't exist to make something for yourself. Elite QBs are the full 100%. Kenny showed the 20% last year, but I want to see him be a BAQ (Boring A** Quarterback) this season that brings out that elite playmaker when he needs to. I still very much have questions about that 80%. That's not the part of football that he has excelled at going back to college. But if he can improve upon that, dudes got top 10 written all over him. Im more excited and encouraged about Kenny than I was when we first drafted him, but I'm still not sold on him being the guy. Fortunately, he is only going into his 2nd year and has more than enough time to grow and earn more trust amongst everyone. Still, I would be alot more excited about his chances of drastically improving if we had replaced Matt Canada with someone who wasn't, ya know.....Matt Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, 43M said: Im more excited and encouraged about Kenny than I was when we first drafted him, but I'm still not sold on him being the guy. Fortunately, he is only going into his 2nd year and has more than enough time to grow and earn more trust amongst everyone. Still, I would be alot more excited about his chances of drastically improving if we had replaced Matt Canada with someone who wasn't, ya know.....Matt Canada. maybe the asistant they hired for OC will be replacing canada. I thought canada would be gone black monday, but it never happened. They will win in spite of canada and because of the improved OL and defence. fire canada sooner than later, or let the assistant take over and keep canada while keeping drama to a minimum? wait and see I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 If the offense sucks again this year and we promote within again or dont fire Canada, I will lose any last bit of faith I have left in Tomlin and the front office. Im more than open to being proven wrong, but Canada absolutely shouldve been fired after last season. Worst case scenario IMO is Kenny and the offense show just barely enough to allow Canada to keep his job. Only way Id be okay keeping Canada going into 2024 is if the offense and Kenny absolutely explode this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 13 hours ago, 43M said: If the offense sucks again this year and we promote within again or dont fire Canada, I will lose any last bit of faith I have left in Tomlin and the front office. Im more than open to being proven wrong, but Canada absolutely shouldve been fired after last season. Worst case scenario IMO is Kenny and the offense show just barely enough to allow Canada to keep his job. Only way Id be okay keeping Canada going into 2024 is if the offense and Kenny absolutely explode this year. I've heard rumor that he is on a short leash but don't expect a mid-season firing either. Basically Tomlin views Canada's career so far as this: 2021 - Broken down Ben, terrible OL, Rookie RB/TE 2022 - Gap QB/Rookie PB, WR2 who turned out to be bad. 2023 - Improved OL, 2nd year QB, maturing skill players. Basically he's got stability at the most important position, improvement where it needed to happen, and a directed philosophy for the offense. If a jump doesn't happen he's out after being given the benefit of doubt the last two seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 https://steelersnow.com/pittsburgh-steelers-leveon-bell-apologizes-fans/ why not sign him as our RB3? No concerns about his blocking or WR skills either as we well know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 13 hours ago, 3rivers said: https://steelersnow.com/pittsburgh-steelers-leveon-bell-apologizes-fans/ why not sign him as our RB3? No concerns about his blocking or WR skills either as we well know. Because he wants to be a rapper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, jebrick said: Because he wants to be a rapper I think the biggest issue would be he provides no ST play. At this point if you don't work with the assumption that RB3 is a ST guy who provides something slightly different in running style from RB1&2 you don't really know Tomlin's preferred roster construction. At this point for RB3 we're likely looking at James Robinson, Marlon Mack, or JD McKissic off the street for a FA RB3 role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 bell probably physically can't do it at this level anymore...his last yr with us showed him slowing down and that was 6 years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, warfelg said: I think the biggest issue would be he provides no ST play. At this point if you don't work with the assumption that RB3 is a ST guy who provides something slightly different in running style from RB1&2 you don't really know Tomlin's preferred roster construction. At this point for RB3 we're likely looking at James Robinson, Marlon Mack, or JD McKissic off the street for a FA RB3 role. I think this is the year McFarland sticks. Him or Alfonzo Graham who apparently had a really strong OTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 hours ago, bigben07MVP said: I think this is the year McFarland sticks. I hope so. I think me and you might be the only Ant fans left on the planet haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I am just hoping we re-sign Benny Snell *ducks* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFF Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 The thing is that if Najee goes down with say an ACL tear tomorrow…*knocks on wood*…there’s plenty of decent options. Hunt/Zeke/Cook/Fournette…all guys that can handle 200 touches and not have to try solely on Warren…with some issues nevertheless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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