2023 Draft Prospects (Google Sheets) - New 2024 QB Worksheet

[Karnage84]

UPDATE

Sheet27 is now the updated RB sheet. It's kind of fuzzy as I'm having some issues with Excel. I'll add a better version when I can. For now, you can zoom in to get a cleaner view. 

It keeps pasting as an image for some reason. Excel has been a bit funky lately so it could be the issue. Sheet 29 is raw numbers without the above average colouring. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by Karnage84

[BigC421/]

1 hour ago, Karnage84 said:

Wouldn't a better metric be CTT/TGT? That'd be a better indicator of how many catches this player is making as a Contested Catch vs how many times they're targeted by the QB. I have zero issues if a guy is catching 72% of his contested catches. If he's in Contested Catches 72% of the time he's targeted, then he's probably not getting separation. 

Yeah I’d want both like you said. Percentage of contested balls caught and percentage of targets contested. Lot of more variables in separation at time of arrival as opposed to a contested catch which is a little more cut and dry. 

[Karnage84]

12 hours ago, BigC421/ said:

Yeah I’d want both like you said. Percentage of contested balls caught and percentage of targets contested. Lot of more variables in separation at time of arrival as opposed to a contested catch which is a little more cut and dry. 

I MIGHT have that in my worksheet? If I don't, that'd be super easy to do because I already have CTT and CTT %. 

Checked: I don't have it but it's super easy to do as I already have # of CTT and # of targets. So we'll do that up soon.

Edited February 16, 2023 by Karnage84

[Lions017]

RB is interesting. By all accounts this is a really deep RB class. I can definitely see Holmes adding a guy in the mid/late rounds, especially if Jamaal goes someplace else (though in that case, I think they would also add a veteran). 

[Sllim Pickens]

8 minutes ago, Lions017 said:

RB is interesting. By all accounts this is a really deep RB class. I can definitely see Holmes adding a guy in the mid/late rounds, especially if Jamaal goes someplace else (though in that case, I think they would also add a veteran). 

For sure.  The combine will be big for a lot of these guys since there seems to be a lot of really solid RBs.  

[Karnage84]

NAME	CTT	CTT%	CTC	CTC%
Quentin Johnston	18	23.1%	8	44.4%
Zay Flowers	12	9.7%	7	58.3%
Jaxon Smith-Njigba	1	12.5%	0	0.0%
Jordan Addison	7	10.0%	2	28.6%
Josh Downs	16	15.4%	12	75.0%
Parker Washington	7	10.6%	5	71.4%
Jalin Hyatt	5	5.6%	3	60.0%
Cedric Tillman	14	23.7%	6	42.9%
Jalen Moreno-Cropper	12	12.0%	3	25.0%
AT Perry	24	21.4%	11	45.8%
Tyler Scott	20	22.7%	11	55.0%
Marvin Mims	8	9.5%	4	50.0%
Rakim Jarrett	7	10.9%	1	14.3%
Jake Bobo	20	25.6%	11	55.0%
Nathaniel Dell	11	7.8%	7	63.6%
Rashee Rice	33	21.2%	16	48.5%
Xavier Hutchinson	31	19.3%	14	45.2%
Puka Nacua	10	14.9%	5	50.0%
Tre Tucker	11	13.8%	4	36.4%
Ronnie Bell	15	18.8%	3	20.0%
Jayden Reed	17	20.2%	11	64.7%
Jonathan Mingo	15	19.0%	7	46.7%
Trey Palmer	23	20.9%	7	30.4%
Andrei Iosivas	16	18.8%	11	68.8%
Charlie Jones	39	28.3%	20	51.3%
Jalen Wayne	13	13.4%	3	23.1%
Elijah Higgins	13	15.9%	4	30.8%
Michael Wilson	10	25.0%	5	50.0%
Derius Davis	8	16.7%	2	25.0%
Dontayvion Wicks	14	19.4%	3	21.4%
Bryce Ford-Wheaton	34	32.4%	18	52.9%
Justin Shorter	12	23.5%	6	50.0%
Jadakis Bonds	22	24.4%	10	45.5%
Demario Douglas	13	12.5%	6	46.2%
Jadon Haselwood	4	5.3%	1	25.0%
Dallas Daniels	14	17.7%	8	57.1%
Michael Jefferson	19	22.9%	8	42.1%
Antoine Green	9	16.4%	5	55.6%
Nikko Remigio	4	5.0%	0	0.0%
Shaquan Davis	23	22.8%	9	39.1%
Kayshon Boutte	7	11.3%	3	42.9%
Malachi Carter	10	23.8%	3	30.0%
Jaray Jenkins	11	29.7%	6	54.5%
Braydon Johnson	19	30.6%	6	31.6%
Joseph Ngata	12	23.5%	5	41.7%
Brycen Tremayne	22	33.3%	9	40.9%
Daniel Arias	12	33.3%	7	58.3%
Jason Brownlee	32	29.6%	14	43.8%
Kearis Jackson	3	10.7%	2	66.7%
Jacob Copeland	5	12.5%	1	20.0%
CJ Johnson	15	18.3%	8	53.3%
Xavier Gipson	11	11.8%	2	18.2%
Malik Knowles	9	13.4%	3	33.3%
Mitchell Tinsley	15	21.4%	9	60.0%
Ryan Miller	10	9.4%	7	70.0%
Malik Heath	11	14.5%	5	45.5%

[Karnage84]

@bigc421 ^^^^ 

I made it yellow because I don't know how I feel about a guy really being a Contested Catch specialist, especially if he's really good at it. A guy that has a ton of contested catches and isn't great at it does raise questions. I can see a short list that does bring concern. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by Karnage84

[Karnage84]

Players who are above average in Contested Catch Targets and Below Average in Reception Rate

Cedric Tillman	14	23.7%	6	42.9%
Ronnie Bell	15	18.8%	3	20.0%
Trey Palmer	23	20.9%	7	30.4%
Dontayvion Wicks	14	19.4%	3	21.4%
Michael Jefferson	19	22.9%	8	42.1%
Shaquan Davis	23	22.8%	9	39.1%
Malachi Carter	10	23.8%	3	30.0%
Braydon Johnson	19	30.6%	6	31.6%
Joseph Ngata	12	23.5%	5	41.7%
Brycen Tremayne	22	33.3%	9	40.9%

[Karnage84]

RB'S - Pass Protection (Above Avg. of Pressure Opportunities and Pressure Allow %)

• Chase Brown    4.1%
• Jordan Mims    5.1%
• Bijan Robinson    5.6%
• Dewayne McBride    5.6%
• Tyjae Spears    8.8%
• Mohamed Ibrahim    8.9%

These are players that were given the task of pass protection on a regular basis and excelled.

RB's who did not allow a pressure at all (includes # of pass pro snaps - class avg is 44)

• Sean Tucker    0%    25
• Kenny McIntosh    0%    18
• Camerun Peoples    0%    25

RB's who were last in pressure %

• Deneric Prince    19.10%
• Deuce Vaughn    18.00%
• Tavion Thomas    17.60%
• Keaton Mitchell    17.50%
• Israel Abanikanda    16.40%
• Devon Achane    15.00%
• Evan Hull    12.80%
• Zach Charbonnet  12.00%
   

[Karnage84]

Gap Scheme Attempts (%)

Evan Hull    61.4%
Deuce Vaughn    57.7%
Deneric Prince    53.4%
Eric Gray    53.3%
Travis Dye    51.4%
Chris Rodriguez    50.9%
Tyjae Spears    50.4%
Roschon Johnson    46.8%
Zach Charbonnet    46.2%
 

[Karnage84]

 

Bold = Above Average (Player name in bold = above average in YPC and TD/A)

Gap%               YPC    TD/A Evan Hull    61.4%    4.2    2.3% Deuce Vaughn    57.7%    5.3    2.9% Deneric Prince    53.4%    5.8    3.9% Eric Gray    53.3%    6.5    5.2% Travis Dye    51.4%    6.1    6.2% Chris Rodriguez    50.9%    5.2    3.4% Tyjae Spears    50.4%    6.2    7.3% Roschon Johnson    46.8%    5.8    5.3% Zach Charbonnet    46.2%    7.0    7.3%

[davisblack]

Anyone like or have any inside info on Caleb Murphy, Edge, Ferris St.? I didn't see him on the spread sheet unless I overlooked him. 

His numbers were obviously insane last year, but there are always questions when its against lesser competition. 

25.5 Sacks - NCAA Record

39 TFL - Tied NCAA Record

First ever Non FBS player to win the Ted Hendricks award 

Two straight division 2 championships 

From the info I can find it seems like he relied on sheer power and acceleration to overpower OL, has a high motor, but he is raw and has short arms. I've seen people project him to go anywhere from 5th round to undrafted, but he was invited to the combine so that will likely change. 

Personally I wouldn't mind the Lions taking a flyer on him with a 6th or a 7th if they make a trade. 

 

[Karnage84]

9 hours ago, davisblack said:

Anyone like or have any inside info on Caleb Murphy, Edge, Ferris St.? I didn't see him on the spread sheet unless I overlooked him. 

His numbers were obviously insane last year, but there are always questions when its against lesser competition. 

25.5 Sacks - NCAA Record

39 TFL - Tied NCAA Record

First ever Non FBS player to win the Ted Hendricks award 

Two straight division 2 championships 

From the info I can find it seems like he relied on sheer power and acceleration to overpower OL, has a high motor, but he is raw and has short arms. I've seen people project him to go anywhere from 5th round to undrafted, but he was invited to the combine so that will likely change. 

Personally I wouldn't mind the Lions taking a flyer on him with a 6th or a 7th if they make a trade. 

 

I don't have him in there. I haven't really looked at the combine and added extra names from there. I tend to throw the combine into my database to compare those performances vs past 12+ years. 

[Karnage84]

On 2/17/2023 at 10:07 PM, davisblack said:

Anyone like or have any inside info on Caleb Murphy, Edge, Ferris St.? I didn't see him on the spread sheet unless I overlooked him. 

His numbers were obviously insane last year, but there are always questions when its against lesser competition. 

25.5 Sacks - NCAA Record

39 TFL - Tied NCAA Record

First ever Non FBS player to win the Ted Hendricks award 

Two straight division 2 championships 

From the info I can find it seems like he relied on sheer power and acceleration to overpower OL, has a high motor, but he is raw and has short arms. I've seen people project him to go anywhere from 5th round to undrafted, but he was invited to the combine so that will likely change. 

Personally I wouldn't mind the Lions taking a flyer on him with a 6th or a 7th if they make a trade. 

 

PFF doesn't have him at all. For whatever reason, they don't have Ferris State in their database for D2. 

[Sllim Pickens]

I just realized Karl Brooks is from my hometown and went to my rival High School.  Saw he was recruited to Bowling Green as a 6'4" 220 pound LB and filled out to be a 6'4" 300 pound DT.  Makes sense on why he seems to be agile and have more pass rush moves than a lot do DTs.