Packerraymond Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: Yes, you have named two categories of rules. Incidental collisions are negated as pass interference are they not? However you're saying they are unnecessary roughness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toddfather said: The penalty is on the intent of the defensive player trying to hurt the offensive player... Not illegal contact, not interference, but the fact that one man playing the game went out of their way to hurt the other player, or as they call it rough the other player. So it's not as simple as watching physically gifted human flying at each other. It's whether or not they are making a malicious intent to hurt someone. That didn't happen on that play. It was a bad call. I'm familiar with the actual rule and I'm certain he violated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: I don't think that's relevant. Every late hit doesn't affect the play, but certainly we still need that category of penalties right? I guess. Still consistently losing sight of the fact I started my first post on this with the hold I think they missed on the same play where he was trying to rip off a dudes head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Packerraymond said: Incidental collisions are negated as pass interference are they not? However you're saying they are unnecessary roughness? Yes No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leader said: Just to be exact..... Mahomes ran out of bounds at the Cincy 42. There were 3 seconds on the clock - so no time to run another play (unless they tried a Hail Mary). So it would have been a 57 yard FG attempt. Not easy. There was 8 seconds on the clock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddfather Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: I'm familiar with the actual rule and I'm certain he violated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Leader said: Just to be exact..... Mahomes ran out of bounds at the Cincy 42. There were 3 seconds on the clock - so no time to run another play (unless they tried a Hail Mary). So it would have been a 57 yard FG attempt. Not easy. He probably misses. I swore there was more time though. Either way, he misses and you live to see OT and that 15 yards made it a pretty high percentage kick for Butker. Obviously the LB there isn't thinking about EXACTLY how many yards the FG is right at that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Toddfather said: Not a huge Seinfeld guy but that is an all time great bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Leader said: Just to be exact..... Mahomes ran out of bounds at the Cincy 42. There were 3 seconds on the clock - so no time to run another play (unless they tried a Hail Mary). So it would have been a 57 yard FG attempt. Not easy. If the guy chasing him stops the pursuit, why should Mahomes go out of bounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Toddfather said: Hm, yeah. One of us has, you know, reality on our side. You are part of a vocal minority and are clearing implying you know the rules better than the literal experts 😬 When that happens, you probably want to be REALLY confident of your position. Like have spent months researching it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Norm said: He probably misses. I swore there was more time though. Either way, he misses and you live to see OT and that 15 yards made it a pretty high percentage kick for Butker. Obviously the LB there isn't thinking about EXACTLY how many yards the FG is right at that moment. The FG play ended with 3 seconds left. I think it started with 8 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: There was 8 seconds on the clock Was there? The ESPN play by play indicated the FG was kicked with 3 seconds left on the clock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Leader said: Was there? The ESPN play by play indicated the FG was kicked with 3 seconds left on the clock. 3 seconds after the play finished. There was an ensuing kickoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Packerraymond said: If the guy chasing him stops the pursuit, why should Mahomes go out of bounds? That's every QB/RB/WR running toward the sidelines. It's how the game is officiated in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, squire12 said: The FG play ended with 3 seconds left. I think it started with 8 seconds I swear I had 8 in my head, thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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