MKnight82 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, DawgX said: Yeah, it's obvious you just hate Rodgers and are arguing in bad faith. If you wouldn't want to trade for Rodgers because of his age? Fine. But he's been better than Lamar in recent years. Plus, Lamar's game is unlikely to age well unless he vastly improves as a passer. I never said Lamar was better in recent years. Dude was moving goalposts. I said I would trade for Lamar instead of Rodgers because at his age I expect him to decline rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: And most of those Pro Bowlers are still on the team or were a product of Lamar's offense. For goodness sakes, Mark Ingram was a Pro Bowler that year! I had a Ravens fan argue with me he was better than Nick Chubb, so I’m now going to pretend he was right to cherry pick the Lamar is a byproduct of talent around him narrative 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, StatKing said: The scratch off I bought an hour ago could be worth 50k. What's more likely? Hitting that 50k or me just being a degenerate gambler? If he needs 2/3rds of the offense around him to be above average then maybe he isn't as good as you think he is. To be clear, this tweet is 2020-2022. We are throwing out Lamar's best season, because that is a requirement for discussing him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Not going to acknowledge that you overrated the 2019 supporting cast? I want to hear your Seth Roberts is underrated take. They were the best team in the league that year. Don't know how you can consider that overrated when the only reason they lost in the playoffs was because their MVP QB **** the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, StatKing said: They were the best team in the league that year. Don't know how you can consider that overrated when the only reason they lost in the playoffs was because their MVP QB **** the bed. Sorry, I didn't know you were this level of clueless before quote replying to you. I support posters like you doing their best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Sorry, I didn't know you were this level of clueless before quote replying to you. I support posters like you doing their best. I watched the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 So it sounds like the Colts are the only realistic suitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, StatKing said: The scratch off I bought an hour ago could be worth 50k. What's more likely? Hitting that 50k or me just being a degenerate gambler? If he needs 2/3rds of the offense around him to be above average then maybe he isn't as good as you think he is. All MVPs have very strong support. He needs to 2/3rds of the offense to be above average to be unanimous MVP. He still can lead a good offense even when his supporting cast is injured/bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, NYRaider said: And an elite defense that won't ask him to pass the ball a ton because they're playing from behind. I think you have it reversed. The 2019 defense was very good because they were always playing from ahead, and Wink got to unveil his full package of blitzes. Overall Lamar's defenses have been top-10ish but not elite, except in 2021 when they were bottom 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just now, AngusMcFife said: I think you have it reversed. The 2019 defense was very good because they were always playing from ahead, and Wink got to unveil his full package of blitzes. Overall Lamar's defenses have been top-10ish but not elite, except in 2021 when they were bottom 5. 2018: 2nd 2019: 3rd 2020: 2nd 2021: 19th 2022: 3rd They've given up an average of 19.4 ppg in his 61 career starts. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Ray Reed said: Local insider has said same thing about Lamar’s commitment to a pro-level physical routine the past year or so. Almost like it’s not a coincidence the guy misses more practices for “non-covid illness” than any player i’ve ever seen lol What are the sleep habits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, MKnight82 said: If I'm the Jets, I would be completely fine with Rodgers throwing a tantrum. Once they trade for him..:buckle up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AngusMcFife Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: 2018: 2nd 2019: 3rd 2020: 2nd 2021: 19th 2022: 3rd They've given up an average of 19.4 ppg in his 61 career starts. PPG is a bit misleading because the Ravens have had a dominant rushing attack, shortening the game and suppressing scoring. Defensive DVOA: 2019: 5th 2020: 9th 2021: 28th 2022: 7th Again, top-10ish, but not dominant. Edited March 28, 2023 by AngusMcFife forgot term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: PPG is a bit misleading because the Ravens have had a dominant rushing attack, shortening the game and suppressing scoring. Defensive DVOA: 2019: 5th 2020: 9th 2021: 28th 2022: 7th Again, top-10ish, but not dominant. Only the Patriots have allowed fewer points since Lamar arrived in Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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