RaidersAreOne Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Geezy said: i love how all the positives regarding this signing are how easy the contract is to get out of and how its structured etc lol There's certainly negatives but what were people realistically expecting? Trading 2 firsts and a $250M gtd contract to Lamar? Give up major assets + $50M per for Rodgers who will likely leave in one season? Trade up to #1? Given all the tidbits from analysts/Ziegler about building this roster slowly pointed to signing a veteran stop gap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: Here's comes the part where we start rationalizing why Jimmy Garoppolo is a great signing I think we still have a bit of the denial phase left in us today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: As was SF. Hoping we can just continue to build our D and depth. Jimmy will be servicable hopefully, but savings this year is only like 6 mil compared to Carr. with 40 mil more savings from dead money, im praying we have a better overall roster. Carr was due 40M saved alot more than 6M Edited March 13, 2023 by raidr4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Heart of Oak said: I hate to say it but worst QB in the AFC West Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 But what's his red zone conversion percent? Honestly though I fear this means we draft a project QB and get stuck in QB hell for the next 3 years, once Jimmy gets hurt in week 5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, raidr4life said: Carr was due 47M saved alot more than 6M ah no, Carr wouldve counted 33 against the cap this year. jimmy, im just roughly guessing at 22 this year, plus the 5 mil in carrs dead cap is 27 33-27 = 6mil cap savings. I dont really care about Mark Davis cash, all I care about is Cap room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: There's certainly negatives but what were people realistically expecting? Trading 2 firsts and a $250M gtd contract to Lamar? Give up major assets + $50M per for Rodgers who will likely leave in one season? Trade up to #1? Given all the tidbits from analysts/Ziegler about building this roster slowly pointed to signing a veteran stop gap. i guess a positive is that JG will happily collect from the sideline whenever we draft our QBoTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Oak Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Again. Yep, but even further back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, BackinBlack said: ah no, Carr wouldve counted 33 against the cap this year. jimmy, im just roughly guessing at 22 this year, plus the 5 mil in carrs dead cap is 27 33-27 = 6mil cap savings. I dont really care about Mark Davis cash, all I care about is Cap room dont forget the guaranteed money in '24 also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) So we have a one of the worst defenses in the league, and a game manager at QB. We will suck even worse in 2023. Edited March 13, 2023 by Humble_Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Heart of Oak said: Yep, but even further back now. cant even count on beating the Donkeys this year now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Geezy said: dont forget the guaranteed money in '24 also. fair, but i said for this year, as i was only talking about 23. with how often people move money around, i rarely just take averages. people have been complaining about carr being a 40 mil qb for the raiders for years, but he never got 40 from us haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Heart of Oak said: Yep, but even further back now. Sure, however Carr and JG are in the same tier for me. So the needle doesn't move all that much for me. We were NEVER competing with KC or the Chargers anytime soon with Derek Carr or Jimmy G. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Humble_Beast said: So we have a one of the worst defenses in the league, a game manager at QB. We will suck once again thats brittle game manager at QB to you, sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, BackinBlack said: fair, but i said for this year, as i was only talking about 23. with how often people move money around, i rarely just take averages. people have been complaining about carr being a 40 mil qb for the raiders for years, but he never got 40 from us haha im saying now were tied to money in 24 with JG, as opposed to DC who had no GTD after this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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