NFLGURU Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Pugger said: It might be a tad premature to declare Kraft a disaster. Agree, but the continued third round hex is concerning. I think he'll be okay. I'm not concerned about him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 15 hours ago, LLcheesehead12 said: So I do agree to some extent. I wasn't all that bothered by the loss to Detroit as they are a good team this year. I wouldn't be bothered too much by losses to SF, Philly, KC, LAC or even Dallas with this team. We aren't ready to beat those teams. But playing like we did against those awful Raiders is bad on another level. Love can get better, but he's always going to be a ball forcer and do a ton of bad, just as Brett Favre did. Couldn't coach those awful passes out of him, and won't be coaching those out of Love. As much as Rodgers's sack taking and reluctance to pull the trigger sometimes drove me nuts, it at least allowed the offense to live to fight another down. Love is killing drives and giving opponents too many freebies for scoring with his interceptions just like Favre did back in the day, and I would not be surprised if he broke Favre's 2005 interception throwing record. Offensive line needs a massive overhaul right now and Meyers, Newman and Walker all need to go. Bakhtiari cannot help us any more with this ridiculous injury bug he has putting him in Brian Bulaga territory, Runyan I'm not sure about but he seems to be injury prone as well. At TE - I like Musgrave, he's got enough upside to keep rolling with and turn into an even better version of Tonyan and what we hoped he'd become. But Kraft and Deguara are disasters and gotta be booted. No talent in those two whatsoever. A rookie tight end 2nd day draft pick after his 5th game coming from FCS football.... You can't just fire and cut everyone who isn't amazing right away or just amazing period. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Norm said: A rookie tight end 2nd day draft pick after his 5th game coming from FCS football.... You can't just fire and cut everyone who isn't amazing right away or just amazing period. I think he would look a lot better than he has in the role musgrave is playing. But Musgrave is doing that stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Norm said: You can't just fire and cut everyone who isn't amazing right away or just amazing period. 5 games is a large enough sample size to determine the future of any player in the NFL. Trust me, I'm a specialist at 'post-scouting' where after drafting a player you can tell if they are going to be good or bust immediately, this skill, unfortunately, it doesn't work pre-drafting. However, I have a high success rate at predicting correctly whether a player will have an NFL future or not, I'm right 80% of the time when I say a player will bust. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Brit Pack said: 5 games is a large enough sample size to determine the future of any player in the NFL. Trust me, I'm a specialist at 'post-scouting' where after drafting a player you can tell if they are going to be good or bust immediately, this skill, unfortunately, it doesn't work pre-drafting. However, I have a high success rate at predicting correctly whether a player will have an NFL future or not, I'm right 80% of the time when I say a player will bust. One of these guys said yesterday you can't prognosticate positively on a player who's "done nothing." I was like uh, the draft? Also Jordan hasn't been great but done nothing isn't fair either. Trying to predict what everyone will become so early is just silly and there's so much evidence of players , ya know, getting better. But nope, cut em all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLcheesehead12 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Norm said: One of these guys said yesterday you can't prognosticate positively on a player who's "done nothing." I was like uh, the draft? Also Jordan hasn't been great but done nothing isn't fair either. Trying to predict what everyone will become so early is just silly and there's so much evidence of players , ya know, getting better. But nope, cut em all. Evidence is based on what Gute's TEs grabbed 3rd round or beyond have done, and they all are trash! Kraft is one of them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LLcheesehead12 said: Evidence is based on what Gute's TEs grabbed 3rd round or beyond have done, and they all are trash! Kraft is one of them too. Thinking there's an actual 3rd round curse thing at all is ******* stupidity. You're just trolling at this point now that you've gotten so much attention. No serious person can want to cut a third round pick 5 games in who hasn't done anything like actually egregious or illegal or something. Edited October 11, 2023 by Norm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Cut all third round picks the instant they are drafted! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Brit Pack said: 5 games is a large enough sample size to determine the future of any player in the NFL. Trust me, I'm a specialist at 'post-scouting' where after drafting a player you can tell if they are going to be good or bust immediately, this skill, unfortunately, it doesn't work pre-drafting. However, I have a high success rate at predicting correctly whether a player will have an NFL future or not, I'm right 80% of the time when I say a player will bust. This is wrong. Tight ends are notorious for taking longer than any other position to “get it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, MacReady said: This is wrong. Tight ends are notorious for taking longer than any other position to “get it.” That was not a serious post. MacReady is notorious for taking longer than others to "get it." 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Norm said: One of these guys said yesterday you can't prognosticate positively on a player who's "done nothing." I was like uh, the draft? Also Jordan hasn't been great but done nothing isn't fair either. Trying to predict what everyone will become so early is just silly and there's so much evidence of players , ya know, getting better. But nope, cut em all. That Davante Adams guy sure was a bust. Or Donald Driver. Aaron Kampman. Scott Wells couldn't even make the final roster out of camp his first year. All these guys were total bums. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 40 minutes ago, Norm said: That was not a serious post. MacReady is notorious for taking longer than others to "get it." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 All 22 footage of every Jordan Love throw against the Raiders if anyone is interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 He was looking pretty good until that first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Norm said: Cut all third round picks the instant they are drafted! I mean when you look at the general success rates of all players at all positions and all draft rounds, I think it's obvious that no one should ever draft any player in any round at any position ever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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