Blaize4488 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Also, the Kyle fuller situation makes me a bit nervous. A team could really put the bears in a tough spot with a backloaded deal. If structured right, it could interfere with Mitch's(Hopeful) megadeal and signing other in-house players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, Blaize4488 said: Also, the Kyle fuller situation makes me a bit nervous. A team could really put the bears in a tough spot with a backloaded deal. If structured right, it could interfere with Mitch's(Hopeful) megadeal and signing other in-house players If he wants to be here I think we can just match the parameters of the deal... plus what player doesn't want to get paid now/up-front rather than down the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Blaize4488 said: Also, the Kyle fuller situation makes me a bit nervous. A team could really put the bears in a tough spot with a backloaded deal. If structured right, it could interfere with Mitch's(Hopeful) megadeal and signing other in-house players By then the cap will be 250 million. Also, Fuller would not want a backloaded deal, it makes it less likely for him to get that cash and earn the interest on the investment of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Rumors of Richard Sherman having been traded are on Twitter. Unsure on destination as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, RunningVaccs said: Seems only fair to raid the Dolphins. They took Adam Gase and therefore any chance of the John Fox era getting winn-y. Actually perhaps that helped us out.... lets raid them anyway though. I think Gase has looked completely overrated. He was predictable here and hasn't done much there as a HC. Still much better than Loggains as an OC and Fox as a HC, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 We got some finance guys in here. Present value of money equations being thrown around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, Blaize4488 said: Also, the Kyle fuller situation makes me a bit nervous. A team could really put the bears in a tough spot with a backloaded deal. If structured right, it could interfere with Mitch's(Hopeful) megadeal and signing other in-house players We aren't landing a ton of big options, so say Fuller and Watkins are the two big catches, I say front load them both. CB – Kyle Fuller – 5 years, $57 million, $27 mil guaranteed (13/10/10/10/14 structure) WR – Sammy Watkins – 5 years, $65 million, $40 mil guaranteed (18/12/11/11/13 structure) That eats $31 of about $90 mil this year, but from here on out they combine for only $22 mil in their biggest year before year 5. By then restructures are available, guaranteed cash is gone, etc. We can still have a ton of maneuverability for Mitch after his 5 years are done on the rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, G08 said: If he wants to be here I think we can just match the parameters of the deal... plus what player doesn't want to get paid now/up-front rather than down the line? Exactly. He is going to get to pick the deal, it doesn't just go by AAV or highest total value. He will pick the one that is most advantageous for him (and rightfully so) and that is almost never a backloaded deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Sugashane said: We aren't landing a ton of big options, so say Fuller and Watkins are the two big catches, I say front load them both. CB – Kyle Fuller – 5 years, $57 million, $27 mil guaranteed (13/10/10/10/14 structure) WR – Sammy Watkins – 5 years, $65 million, $40 mil guaranteed (18/12/11/11/13 structure) That eats $31 of about $90 mil this year, but from here on out they combine for only $22 mil in their biggest year before year 5. By then restructures are available, guaranteed cash is gone, etc. We can still have a ton of maneuverability for Mitch after his 5 years are done on the rookie deal. That is the best thing Pace has done for this team in bold right there. I like his hires this year, I like his choice of QB (I think?) but the best moves might be the ones he didn't make. The Bears are positioned well to be good, and have more ability than usual to stay good. From here on I think it depends on the ability (mostly the coaching staff and Trubisky's) and luck in terms of injuries. It's not going to be bad contracts holding him back like it was with Emery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Sugashane said: Wake would be a hell of an add. Very curious to see if Miami indeed releases him. That would be a real head scratcher when you consider they traded for Robert Quinn and Wake makes a few million less than Quinn does. Don't know exactly what they're doing over there in Miami but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, CBears019 said: Rumors of Richard Sherman having been traded are on Twitter. Unsure on destination as of now. Saw this too. There are serious doubts he will be ready in time for the 2018 season. Apparently he now needs clean up surgery done on his left achilles in addition to tearing his right achilles this past season. That sounds like a grueling rehab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Michael Bennett traded to the Eagles for a 5th and WR Marcus Johnson Alex Ogletree traded to the Giants for a 4 and 6. 6 months after signing a 4/42 extension. Marty B cut by the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CBears019 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 For the record, i don’t think the last line of raps tweet is about the Chicago Bears. I think he means more in general, the situation is worth watching. Poor choice of words on raps part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, CBears019 said: For the record, i don’t think the last line of raps tweet is about the Chicago Bears. I think he means more in general, the situation is worth watching. Poor choice of words on raps part. Alternative take: Actual bear was watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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