chisoxguy7 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, HuskieBear said: the other thing that always pops up with getsy is he calls a GREAT opening script, but then once that's done he seems to turtle and not know how to counter when the defense changes what they're doing I don't know what it is but I'm convinced someone else is scripting our opening drives. Outside of them we seem to be running some kind of high school offense. You've gotta admire how many guys have been able to piggy-back off Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay though. Hackett, Getsy, I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowler1215 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 He has 3 game winning drives in the 4th quarter or OT in his career 7 times he's thrown for 300 yards again in his career. (1-6 in those games, correct me if I'm wrong) Is it Fields, is it coaching or is it both? Is this going to be another Cutler situation? A new OC every year or two. I think that's part of why Cutler wasn't as good as he could have been with us. What about drafting Williams or Maye and keep Fields in a Taysom Hill role? His game is inconsistent, but again, it it Fields himself, Getsy or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, HuskieBear said: the other thing that always pops up with getsy is he calls a GREAT opening script, but then once that's done he seems to turtle and not know how to counter when the defense changes what they're doing Aikman was making fun of it in the 4Q last night. “When you run it enough times they’re gonna figure it out.” It’s THAT bad. WR tunnel screens are fine but there HAS to be a counter play run off of it. Pump fake the screen and run a draw occasionally. Or, rocket science here, run other plays out of the formation. I won’t pretend I should be an NFL OC, but JFC, it’s not that complicated to understand. The biggest issue for me is that we still don’t know if it’s Fields or Getsy (or both), which IMO was the one thing that couldn’t happen. Getsy is SO bad (was there a single moving pocket last night? A single traditional PA pass?) that he was basically taking decision making out of Fields’ hands. And, lo and behold, when we didn’t spam tunnel screens Fields made plays. He hit his check downs to Kmet several times. He escaped pressure in the pocket and found Moore and Johnson up the field. He hit Moore on the last drive. It certainly wasn’t flawless, but it looked like football, and Fields certainly looked like he can play it when Getsy lets him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Watch the way Poles embraces JF1 right at the beginning. Dude loves Justin. Don’t discount that element in the equation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: Watch the way Poles embraces JF1 right at the beginning. Dude loves Justin. Don’t discount that element in the equation. I noticed this too but my main takeaway is that this team is celebrating way too hard for a team that didn't score a touchdown. I get it--I'm a competitor too and I like winning but if I can't even accomplish the primary objective of the game in the process of winning... you wouldn't see me doing this. Edited November 28, 2023 by chisoxguy7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, chisoxguy7 said: I don't know what it is but I'm convinced someone else is scripting our opening drives. Outside of them we seem to be running some kind of high school offense. Its anecdotal, but I feel like everyone says this about their offenses. Its the thing you get to practice the most every week, so it should be better. But yes, once we get through those scripts, its either Getsy completely turtles, or Justin cant conceptualize anything other than these simple plays (or more likely a combo of both) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, chisoxguy7 said: I noticed this too but my main takeaway is that this team is celebrating way too hard for a team that didn't score a touchdown. I get it--I'm a competitor too and I like winning but if I can't even accomplish the primary objective of the game in the process of winning... you wouldn't see me doing this. By this same standard, would you also not celebrate if we won 34-31 because the defense gave up 31 points when their primary objective is to stop the opponent from scoring and they failed at it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: By this same standard, would you also not celebrate if we won 34-31 because the defense gave up 31 points when their primary objective is to stop the opponent from scoring and they failed at it? You would for sure celebrate. Just way it is. You would have concerns, but you would be still be jacked. Philly is jacked they won over Buffalo and they should be. Buffalo still went up and down field on them. But it is hard to celebrate a reg. season game where you got completely shut down offensively and when you aren't sure about your QB going forward. It is easier to fix a defense than a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, dll2000 said: You would for sure celebrate. Just way it is. You would have concerns, but you would be still be jacked. Philly is jacked they won over Buffalo and they should be. Buffalo still went up and down field on them. But it is hard to celebrate a reg. season game where you got completely shut down offensively and when you aren't sure about your QB going forward. It is easier to fix a defense than a QB. Says a fan of a team that has historically had good defenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Guys, I know its early but I think missing those few games will make Fields throw for under 4,000 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Sugashane said: Guys, I know its early but I think missing those few games will make Fields throw for under 4,000 yards. If he gets 5.3 seconds in the pocket instead of 3.5 he can still do it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, AZBearsFan said: By this same standard, would you also not celebrate if we won 34-31 because the defense gave up 31 points when their primary objective is to stop the opponent from scoring and they failed at it? The defense is supposed to limit points scored, yes. But there's more to it than that, including giving your offense time to rest and make adjustments. If you put the '85 Bears defense out there, and you're still putting up 12 points a week, you probably aren't even making the playoffs. Edited November 28, 2023 by chisoxguy7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, chisoxguy7 said: If he gets 5.3 seconds in the pocket instead of 3.5 he can still do it! Moore will still need to have 2400 yards YAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docknstein11 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 hours ago, AZBearsFan said: By this same standard, would you also not celebrate if we won 34-31 because the defense gave up 31 points when their primary objective is to stop the opponent from scoring and they failed at it? Exactly. Such a hardo statement. Their job is football and football is more fun than what anyone else does for a living. Nothing wrong with enjoying a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I don't remember a QB who might be out getting this much support from other pros before...certainly wasn't like this when we were about to drop Trubisky... Not saying it changes anything but again it is part of the evaluation & equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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