Hunter2_1 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: If we're looking at this through a different lens, Allen has a pre-determined first read, which appears to be Kincaid (the guy who Mosley is running towards). He hits his hitch, sees that Mosley is closing so he doesn't like the throw, but by that time the pocket is already collapsing so instead of moving to another read and risking a sack he tries to scramble since the middle of the field is wide open. He just doesn't make it. I really don't think this play by Allen is that bad. We can all sit here and say "throw it to Diggs!" but if Diggs isn't his first read on this play that's completely irrelevant. He didn't have time to make a 2nd read progression so he took off, which is the right call. The only knock you can have here is that maybe he could have thrown to Kincaid's outside shoulder and completed the pass. That’s fair 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifeelasleep Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 he´s the new favre, gotta take the good with the bad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 hours ago, bigbadbuff said: Also, Daboll got rolled 40-0 in his barn two days ago, can we make a Daboll without Allen thread? Daboll without Allen made the playoffs with a below average roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: Wright might be being a little liberal with the word "fumble" as I'm not sure if he's distinguishing between fumbles and fumbles lost. Regardless, putting the football on the turf is never good. Exactly. That's why he's careful to state "picks/fumbles" instead of turnovers. He has 7 fumbles lost since 2022. I'm not saying that's amazing, but the 10 extra account for 27% of his argument. Edited September 12, 2023 by Soggust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nightmare said: Daboll without Allen made the playoffs with a below average roster. So did Allen #shotsfired Edited September 12, 2023 by Soggust 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Nightmare said: Daboll without Allen made the playoffs with a below average roster. Wasn’t due to offense. Allen made the playoffs with a sub par OC, no run game, below average OL. So just Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: The only knock you can have here is that maybe he could have thrown to Kincaid's outside shoulder and completed the pass. I think in time that throw to Kincaid becomes automatic. Or hopefully does. Use to hit the same thing to Beasley all the time. I agree Diggs wasn’t his too target - though I’d argue he always should be lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 One of his INTs was a punt. They were playing one of the best defenses in the NFL with arguably the best secondary in week 1. That being said, he looked terrible. Some of his decisions were baffling... But none of them were as baffling as Wilson's INT. Allen will play badly sometimes and will give the ball away. Is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 He was bad last night bro. A lot of good QBs were this week…they’re not in jeopardy of losing their job or anything but it’s ok to point out when they’re bad, we don’t need the discussion of every bad performance to be prefaced with “he’s still a great player”. We know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: He was bad last night bro. A lot of good QBs were this week…they’re not in jeopardy of losing their job or anything but it’s ok to point out when they’re bad, we don’t need the discussion of every bad performance to be prefaced with “he’s still a great player”. We know I think that's the point though. He's kind of borderline. I think he's a great player, but the turnovers kind of point to the fact that he might not be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Josh Allen has 88 turnovers since entering the league in 2018. That’s like 18 more than Dak who gets ridiculed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 hours ago, SmittyBacall said: God I hate week one. That OP is based on his last 19 games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodeeWater_Cheezburger Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It was Week One. A lot of teams had some issues on offense that they need to clean up. I'm going to hold off on making any proclamations about Josh Allen for a few weeks. He may have just had a bad game, on the road, against a very good defense, in the first game of the season. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, SodeeWater_Cheezburger said: It was Week One. A lot of teams had some issues on offense that they need to clean up. I'm going to hold off on making any proclamations about Josh Allen for a few weeks. He may have just had a bad game, on the road, against a very good defense, in the first game of the season. It happens. Actually, not all of those prior 19 games were Week One games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodeeWater_Cheezburger Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, notthatbluestuff said: Actually, not all of those prior 19 games were Week One games. Ahh. My mistake. I should have read back in the thread. I was thinking this was just more of a Week One overreaction type of thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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