Dr.Doom52 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Not sure I will offer anything new, but from my prospective Willis looks overwhelmed. Yes, everyone was beat immediately and there wasn't much he could do downfield...but he, and Tanny for that matter, don't seem to have a feel for when the line is caving in. The play calling is equal blame in my opinion because we have guys with their back turned 14 yards down field while he is getting sacked, with only a RB in the flat for a check down. I have expressed my displeasure with the scheme too many time to count...we literally never have open crossers, open guys in the middle...it seems like the OC doesn't realize what we all know to be true, we have a bottom 10 Oline. My wife/family often comment how we make every yard look so difficult to gain...they are all KC fans so... Willis looks out of his depths and frozen in fear of turning the ball over. I assume when he came in Vrabel said not turning the ball over is his only priority...so he sees everyone as covered and doesn't trust throwing them open. Levis may be just as bad, but we know Willis is that bad so what's the point in not even trying something else. I think if willis does start there will be a short leash if he won't cut it loose. Bottom line is we are bad and we need to find out if we need to go QB next year again and the only way to do that is see what we hav in Levis because we are not building around Willis. If Levis looks promising we can go for weapons to put around him...then if he falls off next year we have weapons and can address the QB in draft/FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Avoids surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdTitansFan56 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, KingTitan said: Avoids surgery. is that really good news? Just freaking play the young guys and quasi tank. This team is not built to win thanks to the previous GM. No need to run Tannehil out anymore, no reason not to see what Levis has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, MdTitansFan56 said: is that really good news? Just freaking play the young guys and quasi tank. This team is not built to win thanks to the previous GM. No need to run Tannehil out anymore, no reason not to see what Levis has. Yeah not really "good news." Just news. I'd reather see Levis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Doom52 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 What sucks is, if the replacement QB comes in and plays well for 2-3 games...makes no difference, Vrab's will put Tanny back out there as soon as he can limp effectively. Then the rest of the year RT will have several games where he re-aggravates in the 2nd half and the backup will come in and look like garbage because he didn't get 1st team reps. Que the Debbie Downer Gif... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotonebluenation Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Somehow Willis plays most of the rest of games, we get Caleb, we prosper. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr.Doom52 said: What sucks is, if the replacement QB comes in and plays well for 2-3 games...makes no difference, Vrab's will put Tanny back out there as soon as he can limp effectively. Then the rest of the year RT will have several games where he re-aggravates in the 2nd half and the backup will come in and look like garbage because he didn't get 1st team reps. Que the Debbie Downer Gif... i don't think this is actually true. if willis or levis play well and win games they will almost certainly remain the starter. vrabel wants to win above all else. however, i don't expect either of them to actually do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotonebluenation Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, -Hope- said: i don't think this is actually true. if willis or levis play well and win games they will almost certainly remain the starter. vrabel wants to win above all else. however, i don't expect either of them to actually do that. Yea. I fully expect Vrabel to do whatever it takes to win the next play. Cutting the team short now for the future is not apart of a single blood cell in Vrabels body. Whoever it is Vrabel thinks gives us the chance to win now he will play. That dude doesnt give one eff about lining himself up through the draft. Tannehill not producing enough to win may bring us to a young guy if he feels that way, but I fully expect him "play the guy who gives us the best chance to win." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Doom52 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Playing the guy he believes gives us the best chance to win is exactly why I know he will go back to Tanny no matter what...because Vrabel certainly believes RT gives us the best chance to win. The line will be...if either other guy plays well it will be because the team played better not due to improved QB play whether that's true or not. I do agree...I don't think either will provide some sort of spark due to better QB play, and if we go 2-0 or 2-1 it will be because overall increased team play/returning players. Vrabel would never say the QB was the difference even if it clearly was. I truly think every coach hates to "promote" a guy to a starter, because it reflects poorly on them in the first pace for not seeing it and starting the back-up in the first place. I see it at every level and it's rare a coach does make a change. I am beyond shocked it only took 5.5 games to change LT's this year when last year we had to live with the same old hot garbage all year. Truth is he may go back to Dillon out of the bye because he earned the starting spot...and NPF was just slightly effective, mostly in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615finest Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Don’t mess wit big Jeff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeluxx3 Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) pretty lame from Jeff imo edit -- Odell is also wack for playing dirty. Wack situation all around. Head hunting after a butt whooping tho...ok. Edited October 18, 2023 by deeluxx3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, 615finest said: Don’t mess wit big Jeff!! Big Jeff meant fight literally. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotonebluenation Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I like Jeffs energy, but I think he needs to learn to tone it back at times. I think he gets a bit carried away with the **** talking. Especially when you aren't using it to get production on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said: pretty lame from Jeff imo edit -- Odell is also wack for playing dirty. Wack situation all around. Head hunting after a butt whooping tho...ok. jeff should focus on putting together a season where he doesn't disappear halfway through 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Jeff should also not dive at someone's knees when that player is already wrapped up by 2 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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