General Tso Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, detfan782004 said: Well TB just hosed Detroit. Mayfield deal is crazy to me. Not Mayfield fan. Don't think he's worth it It's $33 mil/per year for Baker, isn't that a good thing for Detroit? Jared has less leverage now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, General Tso said: It's $33 mil/per year for Baker, isn't that a good thing for Detroit? Jared has less leverage now. Baker isn't near as good as Goff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Louis Friend said: Eh, I was thinking around $35-40 million/per for Goff. Baker at $33 doesn’t really hose the Lions. At least it’s not $50 per for Daniel Jones 🙄 Baker at 33 means Goff is worth 45-50 per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: Baker at 33 means Goff is worth 45-50 per Baker was never going to get lower than 30M when Daniel Jones makes 40M. And Goff getting only 40M isn't realistic either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: Baker at 33 means Goff is worth 45-50 per I don’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Yea, Baker's stats are not that different from Goff's this past year, also they are close age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC421/ Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I think this ultimately gets done and I also think we end up somewhat over paying for him. I think the leverage the Lions have in the situation has been suveraly downplayed. One of the big grips with the old man was not running the Lions like a big boy business. Over paying , over extending people he liked. Now people seem to want to go back to that mindset because we had 1 good year. We are supposed to be a players team to we’re going to over pay our own? Not use our leverage? Play the business side? Goff is under contract and can be franchised twice without giving any long term commitment. That alone would take him into his age 33 season. I don’t think it would be in Goff’s best interest to pout about or sink his own value but coming in unprepared. I’m suggesting this is the route I want to go. Keeping all sides happy is in the best interest of all parties involved and locking him up would be great. If his agent comes in looking for 4/200 However I think this card needs to played in order to achieve a fair deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, BigC421/ said: I think this ultimately gets done and I also think we end up somewhat over paying for him. I think the leverage the Lions have in the situation has been suveraly downplayed. One of the big grips with the old man was not running the Lions like a big boy business. Over paying , over extending people he liked. Now people seem to want to go back to that mindset because we had 1 good year. We are supposed to be a players team to we’re going to over pay our own? Not use our leverage? Play the business side? Goff is under contract and can be franchised twice without giving any long term commitment. That alone would take him into his age 33 season. I don’t think it would be in Goff’s best interest to pout about or sink his own value but coming in unprepared. I’m suggesting this is the route I want to go. Keeping all sides happy is in the best interest of all parties involved and locking him up would be great. If his agent comes in looking for 4/200 However I think this card needs to played in order to achieve a fair deal. This is completely contrary to the environment that the Lions are looking to create and build on. We were a half of a game away from playing in the Super Bowl with a top tier offense and a struggling defense. Our QB has been playing at a top 8 level for the past 2 years. We're not going to pay him fair value and just keep him on the tag? That doesn't align. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC421/ Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 9 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: This is completely contrary to the environment that the Lions are looking to create and build on. We were a half of a game away from playing in the Super Bowl with a top tier offense and a struggling defense. Our QB has been playing at a top 8 level for the past 2 years. We're not going to pay him fair value and just keep him on the tag? That doesn't align. 50 million a year isn’t fair value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, BigC421/ said: 50 million a year isn’t fair value yea, 50 is a little rich for me. Baker kind of setting the market, no way Goff has more leverage over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, General Tso said: yea, 50 is a little rich for me. Baker kind of setting the market, no way Goff has more leverage over that. Baker went from Cleveland to Carolina to LA to Tampa. He was either a back-up or a spot starter until he won the starting job in TB. Most people expected the Bucs to use him as a bridge QB. Instead, they're re-signing him to bring him back as their QBOTF. Goff is in a very different position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: Baker went from Cleveland to Carolina to LA to Tampa. He was either a back-up or a spot starter until he won the starting job in TB. Most people expected the Bucs to use him as a bridge QB. Instead, they're re-signing him to bring him back as their QBOTF. Goff is in a very different position. Goff still doesn't necessarily have leverage to make more than Burrow or Lamar, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Holmes is going to pay what he feels Goff is worth. I expect mid 40’s at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, General Tso said: Yea, Baker's stats are not that different from Goff's this past year, also they are close age. Goff has more sustained success. He's not a 1 or 2 year product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, diehardlionfan said: Holmes is going to pay what he feels Goff is worth. I expect mid 40’s at a minimum. Well he will have to give mid 40s now. I think Goff will get at minimum of 50 per now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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