The Michigan/Sign Stealing Thread

[MWil23]

23 hours ago, MWil23 said:

The wording from UM is also very carefully chosen. “There has been so far no evidence of other coaches’ involvement proven” is different from “No other coaches were involved”. 

@ramssuperbowl99 yes exactly 

[ramssuperbowl99]

Just now, MWil23 said:

Suspension effective immediately, with an “indefinite” designation pending the investigation and disallowing week to week since this is the route they’re going.

Yep hopefully the B1G updates the punishments before they're officially released.

If they planned this to tease Michigan's response, bravo because that's masterful work.

[MWil23]

[MWil23]

4 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

Yep hopefully the B1G updates the punishments before they're officially released.

If they planned this to tease Michigan's response, bravo because that's masterful work.

If Penn State shocks the world tomorrow, they’ll own the B1G East tiebreaker in a 3 way tie should OSU lose in 15 days, due to B1G West opponent winning %. They could effectively be the Batman of the USA due to the hatred of OSU.

[AkronsWitness]

37 minutes ago, adamq said:

"Witch hunt!"

I didn't want to say it but glad you did

[RuskieTitan]

Wow! The Big10 really decided to throw their weight behind OSU (and Penn St).

[BobbyPhil1781]

 

[BobbyPhil1781]

Lol. This is so awesome if true

 

[BigC421/]

Oh what a tangled web we weave.  I’m sure non of you care and just want your pound of flesh but waiting this late to announce shows just what a coward this clown is. The big10 has zero evidence and doesn’t even pretend to. There notice letter is non sensical garbage. Uttering the same non sense line as MSU. Endangers the health of players if other team knows the play and where to go? Yeah so the big10 just admitted they don’t care about and willingly endanger player health by allowing sign stealing threw other means.  That will go over well with a judge.  Conference leaking to espn before informing UM is such a dirt bag move. You can hat UM, you can think they deserve whatever penalty you want but do you really want this emotionally rattled clown running the conference ?  Your the commish , at least handle your business like a professional. 
 

Injunction is never guaranteed but likely.  I can’t say for sure waiting to hear back but I don’t believe the big10 can adjust its punishment once it’s made official. Rest of regular season is very specific as opposed to set amount of games. If this gets tied up a couple weeks it’s just over and in the ncaa hands at that point.  
 

I can’t wait for this vindictive weasel to have to look Jim in the eye and hand him the big10 trophy 

 

This would be so glorious.  
 

 

[NateDawg]

Pettiti wrote. “The Conference has not received any information that any other member schools engaged in impermissible advance in-person scouting, let alone a scheme of the size and scale like the one at issue here. The Conference is unaware of any active NCAA investigations into impermissible advance scouting involving other members of the Conference. 

[NateDawg]

Literally the response outlined that they have provable info of UM having a cheating scheme they can prove today. Get your head out of the sand.

[AkronsWitness]

1 hour ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

Lol. This is so awesome if true

 

So the only evidence Michigan had this entire time to support their 'Well every other team does it!" claim is screenshots of TV broadcasts and All 22 coaches film.

Hilarious 

[BobbyPhil1781]

1 minute ago, AkronsWitness said:

So the only evidence Michigan had this entire time to support their 'Well every other team does it!" claim is screenshots of TV broadcasts and All 22 coaches film.

Hilarious 

Literally the best thing to come out of this mess lol

[NateDawg]

27 minutes ago, BigC421/ said:

Oh what a tangled web we weave.  

 

 

 

[AkronsWitness]

(sorry for the crazy font)

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/the-big-ten/2023/11/142775/ncaa-knew-and-could-prove-michigan-conducted-in-person-scouting-scheme-using-master-spreadsheet-as-evidence

MICHIGAN’S “MASTER SPREADSHEET” DETAILS SIGN-STEALING ACTIVITIES

The NCAA obtained what it described as a “master spreadsheet” from Michigan that “included a very large amount of detailed information regarding the impermissible scheme.” Per the notice of disciplinary action, the spreadsheet included the following items:

• a large and detailed chart listing the names of various individuals assigned to attend past and future football games involving the University’s scheduled football opponents 
• similar in-person attendance assignments for past and future games involving highlyranked, non-conference football opponents (presumably potential University football opponents in post-season games)
• notations showing whether in-person attendance at non-conference games would be necessary depending on different win/loss scenarios
• the 2023 game schedules of the university’s scheduled football opponents
• color-coding to reflect past games actually attended by assigned individuals and future games for which individual assignments were still needed 
• the names of individuals assigned to certain cities and locations 
• monetary amounts associated with certain assigned games

• The NCAA informed the Big Ten on Nov. 2 that it “knew and could prove” that Stalions partook in the following actions:

• the staff member participated in and coordinated a vast off-campus, in-person advance scouting scheme involving a network of individuals
• he purchased and forwarded tickets for games involving future university football opponents, and the tickets were for seats strategically located for stealing the future opponents’ signs
• he and others acting at his direction video recorded signs used by future university opponents while attending the opponents’ games in person
• information, including videos of future opponents’ signs, was delivered back to the staff member by those who had attended the games and taken the videos at his direction
• during the time in question, including through the university’s seventh game of the 2023 season, the staff member was present on the university’s sidelines, dressed similarly to university coaches, in close proximity to university coaches, and he communicated directly with such coaches.

• Given that, Petitti felt comfortable taking action against Michigan now, even though the NCAA has not yet concluded its investigation.

“To be clear, neither I nor the Conference reached this determination based on ‘rumor’ or mere ‘summaries and descriptions’ of evidence, as the University contends in its response,” Pettiti wrote. “The Conference has received and reviewed extensive documentation and information during the course of its investigation. This includes the Master Spreadsheet and other documents and information that the NCAA made available to the University and which the Conference now has in its possession, notwithstanding the University’s initial refusal to consent to the Conference obtaining such materials from the NCAA

Edited November 11, 2023 by AkronsWitness