HuskieBear Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, dll2000 said: This is all over X right now. Apparently his show is on this morning and Cowherd walked it back. If true, which it sounds like it is, I am sure clips are coming. huh, who could have seen this coming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Here is a chart showing the top QBs against Top-25 competition this season. Maybe CW's defense giving up over 34 points/game had something with him going 7-5? Player Completions Attempts Comp % Yards Touchdowns Interceptions NCAA Rating Caleb Williams (T25) 314 488 64.34% 4029 31 8 151.4 Jayden Daniels (T25) 274 423 64.78% 3416 23 7 147.2 J.J. McCarthy (T25) 133 210 63.33% 1658 11 4 143.1 Drake Maye (T25) 133 227 58.59% 1626 16 5 137.6 Bo Nix (T25) 445 720 61.81% 4986 31 15 130 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/02/02/caleb-williams-cowherd-2/ “I got a call from the Caleb Williams camp and they went ‘whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa, Colin … we don’t want to be painted as anti-Chicago and we don’t want to be painted as anti-Bear. And they made it clear to me that they said: Listen, we don’t want to go to a city that doesn’t care. Chicago cares. They’re big, loud, they’re passionate. They fire coaches all the time. They care. We don’t want to go to some Sun Belt place where you tarp off the upper deck. And they did say there is a path to succeed in Chicago — it’s called the Houston Texans. Defensive coach. A couple of weapons. Cap space. Good pick. They’ve got a second pick. There’s a bunch of different receivers out there … they can go get another weapon.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, HuskieBear said: Here is a chart showing the top QBs against Top-25 competition this season. Maybe CW's defense giving up over 34 points/game had something with him going 7-5? Ive seen alot worse QB prospects with just as average to bad Defenses go better than 2-9 against Ranked teams I worry about how he handles his first NFL losing streak, especially the way Chicago fans turn on guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, dll2000 said: https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2024/02/02/caleb-williams-cowherd-2/ “I got a call from the Caleb Williams camp and they went ‘whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa, Colin … we don’t want to be painted as anti-Chicago and we don’t want to be painted as anti-Bear. And they made it clear to me that they said: Listen, we don’t want to go to a city that doesn’t care. Chicago cares. They’re big, loud, they’re passionate. They fire coaches all the time. They care. We don’t want to go to some Sun Belt place where you tarp off the upper deck. And they did say there is a path to succeed in Chicago — it’s called the Houston Texans. Defensive coach. A couple of weapons. Cap space. Good pick. They’ve got a second pick. There’s a bunch of different receivers out there … they can go get another weapon.” a) The drama aroudn the Bears QB is only going to get more annoying for the next couple months. b) The drama Caleb Williams is absolutely guaranteed to bring to Chicago is the biggest reason I would have pause drafting him. There are probably going to be many times we look back fondly on Justin when Caleb is on instagram demanding the Bears serve better sodas in the stadium, but if he's as good as he could be then we'll get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 hours ago, HuskieBear said: Here is a chart showing the top QBs against Top-25 competition this season. Maybe CW's defense giving up over 34 points/game had something with him going 7-5? Player Completions Attempts Comp % Yards Touchdowns Interceptions NCAA Rating Caleb Williams (T25) 314 488 64.34% 4029 31 8 151.4 Jayden Daniels (T25) 274 423 64.78% 3416 23 7 147.2 J.J. McCarthy (T25) 133 210 63.33% 1658 11 4 143.1 Drake Maye (T25) 133 227 58.59% 1626 16 5 137.6 Bo Nix (T25) 445 720 61.81% 4986 31 15 130 Very good data set...where did this come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, StLunatic88 said: Ive seen alot worse QB prospects with just as average to bad Defenses go better than 2-9 against Ranked teams I worry about how he handles his first NFL losing streak, especially the way Chicago fans turn on guys My money is on the same as Mahomes hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, HuskieBear said: Here is a chart showing the top QBs against Top-25 competition this season. Maybe CW's defense giving up over 34 points/game had something with him going 7-5? Player Completions Attempts Comp % Yards Touchdowns Interceptions NCAA Rating Caleb Williams (T25) 314 488 64.34% 4029 31 8 151.4 Jayden Daniels (T25) 274 423 64.78% 3416 23 7 147.2 J.J. McCarthy (T25) 133 210 63.33% 1658 11 4 143.1 Drake Maye (T25) 133 227 58.59% 1626 16 5 137.6 Bo Nix (T25) 445 720 61.81% 4986 31 15 130 Exactly what I've been saying. He was Mahomes'd at USC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 hours ago, Madmike90 said: Very good data set...where did this come from? https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2024/2/2/24058163/fact-check-caleb-williams-solid-ranked-opponent-jj-mccarthy-jayden-daniels-drake-maye-nfl-draftbears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 You have to wonder if Poles views Caleb as a Joe Burrows type...Miami offered 3x 1st round picks+ to the Bengals to move from #5 to #1 and the Bengals flat out said no and that nothing would move them out the spot...this could be shaping up the same way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 15 hours ago, Madmike90 said: My money is on the same as Mahomes hahaha Hopefully he has as few of them as Mahomes has had, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: Hopefully he has as few of them as Mahomes has had, huh? Exactly my friend…if he truly is all he is cracked up to be then he won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We have to at least discuss this, right? What if Poles is set to move on from Fields, but likes Maye more than Williams? Everyone seems to agree that Williams can play, but if he wasn’t in this draft we’d all be fawning over Maye just as much. He’s a truly elite QB prospect too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) Maye to me reminds me a ton of Jay Cutler, but if Cutler loved football the way Fields loves football. I see that as a really good thing. Edited February 4 by AZBearsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 35 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: We have to at least discuss this, right? What if Poles is set to move on from Fields, but likes Maye more than Williams? Everyone seems to agree that Williams can play, but if he wasn’t in this draft we’d all be fawning over Maye just as much. He’s a truly elite QB prospect too. Agree that this is at least possible, and have been wondering about it since I started lookign at the QB options. If you think the character profile the Bears have gone after in coaches and players they don't tend to acquire or keep headaches or loud personalities. Williams is probably the latter and possible the former. Would be super Bearsy to dodge out of the way of a possible top talent, but they might think Maye is just as good. Honestly if that's the way their evaluation shakes out I'd be fine with that especially if they could go 1->2 and rob the Commies a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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