vike daddy Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 a thread to discuss options in front of us for eventually replacing Cousins as our starting QB, be that at the end of this season or later on. Re-sign Cousins for a lesser market rate? for how long? Keep Dobbs, let him go? does Hall have a future? and of course the Big Question... who to draft in 2024? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 ESPN's Matt Miller continued: “Cousins could certainly return, and Joshua Dobbs has looked good since joining Minnesota at the trade deadline. But the Vikings will more likely be using a first-round draft pick to find another quarterback to build around.” The good news? If Miller is correct, the Vikings will have oodles of quarterback options in April. Draft pundits love to excitedly predict, “Wait until you see next year’s quarterback crop,” but the statement is actually true this go-round. After the recent five-game winning streak, Minnesota will no longer fetch a Top 10 pick. However, the quarterback class is so deep that the Vikings could explore a rookie like Michael Penix Jr. (Washington), Jayden Daniels (LSU), or Bo Nix (Oregon), for example, outside the Top 10. The Vikings also have comfort in exploring the re-signing of Cousins or Dobbs — or both — so the would-be new guy need not start right away. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/analysis/espn-projects-vikings?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) As I said in the other thread...and believe they will eventually make the same choice is the resigning of Kirk. While everyone appreciates what Josh has done thus far, I don't personally view him as an answer for the next 2-3 years. While he could get a Case Keenum-esque deal (who got 2 yrs/$36M from the Broncos after his stint here)...at an inflationary price of probably somewhere around $25M a yr, I'd rather pay $35M-$40M for a year or 2 of Kirk. I think he's a more reliable option and one I'd want the new guy (who they will draft) to be learning from. Edited November 16, 2023 by swede700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Honestly, I don't think you know what to do until after the season. We have see how Dobbs performs and how Cousins recovers from his injury. Dobbs has pretty small sample size at this point, and I'd like to see how we're feeling after 9 games as opposed just the two we've seen. Edited November 16, 2023 by Worm Guts 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: Honestly, I don't think you know what to do until after the season. We have see how Dobbs performs and how Cousins recovers from his injury. Dobbs has pretty small sample size at this point, and I'd like to see how we're feeling after 9 games as opposed just the two we've seen. to add to this, if Dobbs takes them on a deep playoff run (NFCCG appearance) it'd be pretty hard to not resign him. At this point I'm inclined to believe that KO and Kwesi will rely on each other to make the best decision. If KO wants Kirk back and Kwesi can do it at a number that works for the team, great. If KO says the offense opens up and I can get more out of Dobbs, great. They've earned my trust as a fan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: to add to this, if Dobbs takes them on a deep playoff run (NFCCG appearance) it'd be pretty hard to not resign him. While I know it's a different group at the top, it certainly didn't seem that hard when the discussion surrounded Keenum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, swede700 said: While I know it's a different group at the top, it certainly didn't seem that hard when the discussion surrounded Keenum. Keenum was playing "with a horseshoe up his..." that year, and you know it. Dobbs is doing something that through two games, looks way more sustainable. Dobbs hasn't thrown a pass with Jefferson on the field yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Keenum was playing "with a horseshoe up his..." that year, and you know it. Dobbs is doing something that through two games, looks way more sustainable. Dobbs hasn't thrown a pass with Jefferson on the field yet. https://fb.watch/ol-QZuHDQm/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 @Ozzy, let's you use this thread to specifically analyze QB draft prospects. and yes, guys, this is a discussion that will go on through this season, over the spring, and into April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Cousins over Dobbs every day of the week. And twice on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays. Dobbs is fun to watch. But he’s not even close to what Cousins is as a QB. With O’Connell and the supporting cast Dobbs is looking like a capable starter. With O’Connell and the supporting cast, Cousins was a top 10 QB playing like a legit MVP candidate. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Just now, SemperFeist said: Cousins over Dobbs every day of the week. And twice on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays. Dobbs is fun to watch. But he’s not even close to what Cousins is as a QB. With O’Connell and the supporting cast Dobbs is looking like a capable starter. With O’Connell and the supporting cast, Cousins was a top 10 QB playing like a legit MVP candidate. *IF he's healthy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Keenum was playing "with a horseshoe up his..." that year, and you know it. Dobbs is doing something that through two games, looks way more sustainable. Dobbs hasn't thrown a pass with Jefferson on the field yet. Either way, I don't have belief yet that it is sustainable. It might be, but I still see erratic ball placement quite a bit with Dobbs that we just don't ever see with Kirk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, swede700 said: Either way, I don't have belief yet that it is sustainable. It might be, but I still see erratic ball placement quite a bit with Dobbs that we just don't ever see with Kirk. Dobbs had great ball placement against the Saints outside of that one interceptable pass that Addison caught. Not Cousins level - and if he's healthy I'm all aboard bringing Cousins back for a year, he was playing MVP level ball - but if I'm a decision maker, I'm going to give KO the chance to work with Dobbs. Cousins wasn't who he was this year until he spent a ton of time in the offense. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that I believe the staff will make the right choice, and if it's Dobbs or a rookie they will make that player the best version of himself within the offense. I will say that I like having an athlete that can add another dimension to the offense. Edited November 16, 2023 by JDBrocks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 16, 2023 Author Share Posted November 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Cousins over Dobbs every day of the week. And twice on Sundays, Mondays, and Thursdays. saturday playoff games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, vike daddy said: saturday playoff games? Even in primetime now. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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