UndyTaker Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 39 minutes ago, CasperX22 said: Stop it. Marcus Smith was 26th I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 All you've proven is those "misses" are exactly why Howie has been trading up for whatever targeted player they have on the board the past few years. Let's be real. The draft is a crap shoot. Nothing guaranteed. Especially after the top 10-15 players in the draft. Rarely are there 32 1st rd grades. So acquiring that blue chip type talent (Smitty, Davis, Carter) is always ideal. I'd be shocked if we stayed at #22 and don't trade up. For who, I don't know but its coming. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downundermike Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Nabbs4u said: All you've proven is those "misses" are exactly why Howie has been trading up for whatever targeted player they have on the board the past few years. Which proves Howie can not evaluate the talent after 10. JJ was a no brainer, everyone could see it except for Howie. I am a huge WSU fan, but I cringed when we took Dillard. Traded up ahead of Baltimore for Jordan Davis, who will never produce at a level to match his draft slot and the additional picks used to acquire him. Could have stayed put and taken a pro bowl safety, a position that is a glaring weakness for the Eagles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 50 minutes ago, downundermike said: JJ was a no brainer, everyone could see it except for Howie. and 90% of this message board 52 minutes ago, downundermike said: I am a huge WSU fan, but I cringed when we took Dillard. In typical Eagles fashion the 4 players drafted directly after Dillard all have been productive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Stand Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, downundermike said: Which proves Howie can not evaluate the talent after 10. JJ was a no brainer, everyone could see it except for Howie. I am a huge WSU fan, but I cringed when we took Dillard. Traded up ahead of Baltimore for Jordan Davis, who will never produce at a level to match his draft slot and the additional picks used to acquire him. Could have stayed put and taken a pro bowl safety, a position that is a glaring weakness for the Eagles. Stoutland wanted Dillard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 43 minutes ago, Scalamania said: and 90% of this message board In typical Eagles fashion the 4 players drafted directly after Dillard all have been productive. Also to be fair, Doug had at least as much to do with the Reagor selection as Howie did. Their scouting department wanted Jefferson, Doug and Howie overruled everyone else in the room and took Reagor. Was Howie just getting Doug his guy, or was he of the same mindset as Doug? We'll probably never know the answer to that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 10 minutes ago, CasperX22 said: Also to be fair, Doug had at least as much to do with the Reagor selection as Howie did. Their scouting department wanted Jefferson, Doug and Howie overruled everyone else in the room and took Reagor. Was Howie just getting Doug his guy, or was he of the same mindset as Doug? We'll probably never know the answer to that question. I've always felt that Howie had a tendency to listen to his coaches a bit too much, and the longer Doug was here, the more Doug's MO took over... e.g. Press Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Stand Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, Danger said: I've always felt that Howie had a tendency to listen to his coaches a bit too much, and the longer Doug was here, the more Doug's MO took over... e.g. Press Taylor. Also just in general in most years the league typically perceives there being 15 or less actual first round graded prospects therefore the hit rate is only going to shrink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, downundermike said: Which proves Howie can not evaluate the talent after 10. JJ was a no brainer, everyone could see it except for Howie. I am a huge WSU fan, but I cringed when we took Dillard. Traded up ahead of Baltimore for Jordan Davis, who will never produce at a level to match his draft slot and the additional picks used to acquire him. Could have stayed put and taken a pro bowl safety, a position that is a glaring weakness for the Eagles. Not really a reply to your overall point but safety is a glaring weakness? I was overall disappointed in the Davis pick and was clamoring for Hamilton. But I wouldn't call our safety room weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Peter Schrager posted his nfl insider mock draft for NFL.com you can tell he never talked to Howie lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, ninjapirate said: Peter Schrager posted his nfl insider mock draft for NFL.com you can tell he never talked to Howie lol What... because he picked Cooper DeJean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, Danger said: What... because he picked Cooper DeJean? No every other comment was they met and loved this player and his eagles comment is I guess I can see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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babyatemydingo Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, Last Stand said: Stoutland wanted Dillard. If you watched Dillard in college, he was a solid prospect. He had good technique for a rookie, he was just too weak, especially in the lower half and got pushed around. Then he saw his first opportunity at RT and got manhandled. I don't know of anyone who at the time though he was a bad pick. In fact, it was widely regarded as a coup to move up ahead of Texas for him. It doesn't appear that he did all that was necessary to get functionally stronger. Sometimes the right pick just doesn't work out. Now, Reagor over Jefferson ..........😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, Last Stand said: Stoutland wanted Dillard. Story I remember was he hadn’t really done much on Dillard because they thought he’d go way earlier. Stout was brought in to double check late and said sure, but it wasn’t like the long process of work he did for Mailata, Jurgens, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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