CP3MVP Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, seminoles1 said: What legacy? Having 100 kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, seminoles1 said: Fouts blows Rivers away on paper. Context would be Rivers was stuck in a crazy good QB era, but I don't think Rivers ends up getting in. His legacy is that he was like the 6th best QB in the league for the majority of his career. Yeah not even close. His Legacy is he was a top 5 QB stuck on injury prone rosters with medicore coaching and elite talent depending on the year. 52 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: Having 100 kids This if like 1-2 of his kids up being legitimate franchise QBs it'll boost his legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I'm honestly not sure. I think he's fringe HOF caliber at this point, but idk where that ranks him top 10. He might be the most efficient QB of all-time when looking at his stats but the drop off in statistics once his mobility and defense started to decline is noticeable. Those first like 6 years though were magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 11 hours ago, Xmad said: 13 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Fouts blows Rivers away on paper. Yeah not even close. Fouts: 1980s All-Decade Team, 2x 1st Team All-Pro, 2x 2nd Team All-Pro, 1982 OPOY, 6x Pro Bowler, 4x Passing Yards leader, 2x Passing TD leader, 1x Completion % leader Rivers: 2013 CPOY, 8x Pro Bowler, 1x Passer Rating leader, 1x Passing Yards leader, 1x Passing TD leader, 1x Completion % leader Yes, Fouts blows Rivers away on paper. Edited February 4 by seminoles1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMT Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) You shouldn't get in the HOF if you don't have an All-Pro 1st team, that's crazy. Rivers never had an all-pro, how can he be considered for the HOF? The Hall is for the special players, and sorry but Rivers isn't in that category. Same thing with Wilson who only as 1 team second all-pro. Hall of Very Good but that stops there. Edited February 4 by MagicMT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, MagicMT said: You shouldn't get in the HOF if you don't have an All-Pro 1st team, that's crazy. Rivers never had an all-pro, how can he be considered for the HOF? The Hall is for the special players, and sorry but Rivers isn't in that category. Same thing with Wilson who only as 1 team second all-pro. Hall of Very Good but that stops there. Neither Eli nor Ben would get in by that metric, and Brees's 2006 is the only reason he'd be in. Elway also wouldn't make it Edited February 4 by jonnguy2015 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMT Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, jonnguy2015 said: Neither Eli nor Ben would get in by that metric, and Brees's 2006 is the only reason he'd be in. Elway also wouldn't make it I honestly don't have any problem with Eli or Ben not making it. But you're right that APs couldn't be the only measure for an HOF career. I jumped the gun a little bit! But apart from playing well a long while, when was Rivers even a top 3 QB in the NFL? Same thing with Wilson. How can you make the HOF if you were never top 3 at your own position for any length of time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Rivers not making all pro in 2008 was a joke tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 28 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: Rivers not making all pro in 2008 was a joke tho Not really I mean, the Chargers had such a soft schedule for the opposing defense.The other 3 AFC West teams had a brutal defense that year Also, even if it wasn't his fault, it's almost impossible to be first team all-pro at your position when you're 8-8, fair or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 21 hours ago, CP3MVP said: Having 100 kids Phillip Rivers couldn't pull out of a driveway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/3/2024 at 7:28 AM, MaddHatter said: Rivers ain’t a HOFer. Ben and Eli likely are because of their SB rings but guys like Rivers and Romo aren’t going near the HOF Which is always funny to me, be ause of you ask me whether I'd rather have Romo/Rivers or Eli for any given game, I'd take the first two without hesitation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/3/2024 at 4:46 PM, Xmad said: Rivers will simply because of legacy. Rivers is playing the long game - He's going to push all his kids into sports journalism, have them become Hall of Fame voters, and get in that way 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddHatter Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: Which is always funny to me, be ause of you ask me whether I'd rather have Romo/Rivers or Eli for any given game, I'd take the first two without hesitation Because it's the Hall of "Fame" not the Hall of "Great" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) On 2/3/2024 at 10:03 PM, seminoles1 said: Fouts blows Rivers away on paper. Context would be Rivers was stuck in a crazy good QB era, but I don't think Rivers ends up getting in. His legacy is that he was like the 6th best QB in the league for the majority of his career. Yeah I agree. Fouts was iconic -the first high volume trigger man in a dynamic passing attack. Fouts set the stage that Moon, Warner, Marino, Favre frolicked upon. And it's just a matter of perception. Rivers played when there were several people doing that, and even if he was Fouts Heather' equal iin manyways he just doesn't have the stature leaguewide Edited February 5 by Mr Bad Example 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbertGOAT Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 On 2/3/2024 at 4:59 PM, MaddHatter said: Disagree completely- he won’t sniff the HOF at any point in the next 40 years If you think a top 50 QB is a likely HOFer (according to your poll) there is simply no way Rivers doesn't make it. He's top 25-30 at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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