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Where would Prime Michael Vick rank among current QBs?


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He's justin fields with better athleticism. Legit Vick would be picked apart by defensive coordinators nowadays.

Hence why Fields has sucked since he can't pass.

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If you could take eagles vick throwing the ball although i still wish he could improve on that a bit more.  While adding Falcons vick athleticism, running, and scrambling.  You could have a top 7 or so QB but as he was when he played i say like 16 to 20.

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Lamar Jackson was just the MVP of the NFL in 2023 for the 2nd time.

 

Mike Vick would be right there in his prime, Vick played back in the NFL where the QB did not have near the protections they do now and the offensive players did not have near the protections.  Much less the RPO game and different more spread offenses around the NFL as well which help mobile QBs as well.  Freaking in Atlanta didn't they play the T formation with Vick sometimes, yeah the offenses now are a bit more dangerous than that for mobile QBs.  

 

Mike Vick to me is faster straight line than Lamar Jackson, is quicker in a phone booth than Lamar Jackson and threw the football with more velocity than Lamar Jackson and arguably threw it better in motion than Lamar Jackson.  And if Lamar is a MVP which he is, in the right situation like Lamar is, in no way Vick could not have similar success.  Lamar was the closest thing to Mike Vick in the NFL since Mike Vick.  Vick was the standard, dude was an athletic freak show, what legit 4.33 or 4.25 40 time speed, dude could fly.

 

Robert Griffin III helps show that transition, he was great to start his career but early in that career they still had physical rules similar to when Vick played and Griffin's career soon ended because of that and the hits he took.  Lamar Jackson is great but he is helped by the rule changes and players not being able to lead with the helmet when tackling a ball carrier or hitting across the middle with the helmet on WRs.  So Mike Vick in the NFL today fully healthy, he would do great.

 

Vick's last season in the NFL was 2015.

 

The major rule changes with defenders not being allowed to tackle leading with the helmet started in 2018 and expanded from that.  2016 the horse collar rule was expanded, 2017 a WR was not considered a defenseless player while running a pass route etc...

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eagles mike vick gotta be one the most overated run that people pretend was elite or awesome and not just fluke that caught the league off gaurd for like 6 or 7 games and vick didn't go back to being a average injury,turnover  prone qb after only like 7 out of 40 start's

Vick has 20/20 W/L record as eagle starting quarterback with 69 combined rushing/passing TD'S with 69 total (int/ fumbles) this as all with the maybe the best war chest of weapon's at the skill position's in the hole NFL (D JAX,McCoy,Maclin,Brent Celek) at the time at least top five weapons at the absolutely worst

if vick really improved his qb play on the eagles he should have had the same kind "late bloomer" 3-4 year run of early-mid 30's year old moblie qb's like rich gannon/ jeff garcia had in the early 2000s with Andy Reid and a all star team of weapons

 

mike vick on the eagles with a ton explosive weapons/ a all time offensive mind at head coach and  being a ten year+ vet QB getting destroyed be blitzing defenses like he was a rookie or second year QB 

this game pretty much ended vickamania the back end of the 2010 sesaon and exposed his inability to read defenses and processes quickly

 

 

Eagles insist Vick has good blitz awareness

Reid: Vick issues with reading the blitz over

Eagles Extras: Vick Struggles Against the Blitz (Still)

Michael Vick Vs The Blitz

Vick, Eagles struggling vs. the blitz

Michael Vick's woes: What's wrong with Philadelphia Eagles QB?

 

the comes the chip kelly era (vick in a rpo offence) people claim would be his ideal offence to put him in

 

then basically justified chip kelly making him compete with Foles with his own sorry  on field play chip's first year coaching the eagles VICK had a 2/4 W/L, record 54.6 comp%, 5 TD/3INT in 6 games with a high powered up tempo quick read rpo offence  that was "supposedly tailored made for his skillsets"

compared to the lead footed Nick Foles with the exact same team, the same quick read rpo offence 8/2,W/L/ record, 64,9 comp%, 27td's/2 int's 

 

Vick: 'I am not holding the ball too long'

Vick was like the nfl QB equivalent of a 80 year old grandma behind the wheel of Bugatti

 

but he ran up the score and blew out a garbage redskins team on Monday night with a historically bad defense eagles vick most be G.O.A.T.🤣

 

the one thing with lamar jackson/ vick comparison people forget is vick is like 6'0 even on a good day a midget qb and lamar is close to 6'3 and can actully see over his offence the line

 

vick lack of ideal hight, little hands(ridiculous high fumble rate,) terrible film study habit's he is closer a to kyler murry then a lamer jackson

 

Vick has 84 fumbles in 116 games. He’s averaging 0.724 fumbles per game, a rate above the average of Brett Favre (.5496), the NFL’s all-time leading fumbler. Favre has 166 fumbles in 302 games

NFL: Vick’s fumbling problem far from an isolated incident

Michael Vick Didn't Watch Game Film

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9 hours ago, Danger said:

Michael Vick in his peak Eagles days is on par with LaMar Jackson, but he couldn't sustain that. So it depends how highly you rate LaMar Jackson.

Lamar Jackson is infinitely better than Vick. Lamar has two MVPs and has multiple no.1 seeds, Vick has one or two solid seasons? His best W/L ona  season is 11-4 with a 14 TD to 12 INT ratio. 

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7 minutes ago, Xmad said:

Lamar Jackson is infinitely better than Vick. Lamar has two MVPs and has multiple no.1 seeds, Vick has one or two solid seasons? His best W/L ona  season is 11-4 with a 14 TD to 12 INT ratio. 

Bro. did you read the title of the thread? Or my post? PRIME Michael Vick, and his prime/peak was not that long.

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10 minutes ago, Danger said:

Bro. did you read the title of the thread? Or my post? PRIME Michael Vick, and his prime/peak was not that long.

Peaks can mean different things. I was talking about prime *Falcons* vick. when he was healthy and led them to an 11 win season. 

Peak Eagles Vick is still a top 10-ish QB.

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Middle of the pack because of his athleticism and arm strength. If he's with a team that builds completely around his playstyle he could be like the 10th best QB in the league

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