SemperFeist Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: hmmph. Ivan Pace went undrafted because "he was too small to play in the NFL." sometimes, all the GM's are wrong during the Draft. And guys like Ivan Pace are the exception, not the rule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 52 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: And guys like Ivan Pace are the exception, not the rule. It still baffles me that some team didn't at least take a flyer on him with how productive he was in college Edited May 5 by vikesfan89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 In 2023 with the Bruins, the slippery, hand-work magician Murphy registered 61 pressures on a mere 355 pass-rushing snaps (17.1% pressure-creation rate). He knows how to work past his length limitations, and frankly, he's not incredibly small at over 6-2 and 247 pounds. Yes, Minnesota traded up for the highly decorated and athletic Dallas Turner at No. 17. And they signed Andrew Van Ginkel and Jonathan Greenard in free agency. BUT, if any defensive coordinator will know how to deploy him, it's Brian Flores. CBSSports.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Quote 2024 Undrafted Free Agents 35 — Devron Harper 40 — Donovan Manuel 41 — Trey Knox 45 — K.J. Cloyd 47 — Dwight McGlothern, Jr. 48 — Dallas Gant 57 — Owen Porter 59 — Gabriel Murphy 63 — Jeremy Flax 72 — Doug Nester 73 — Matt Cindric 74 — Spencer Rolland 82 — Jeshaun Jones 85 — Ty James 94 — Taki Taimani 95 — Tyler Manoa 98 — Bo Richter https://www.vikings.com/news/jersey-numbers-2024-nfl-draft-class-udfas-free-agents-changes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I think one of the ILB's take a spot on the squad. I don't know who or which one, but I do think one of them will. I also think one of the OTs that are sliding in to guard might show off and make it difficult. Probably Nestor here. If they trade or cut Patrick Jones, I do think Murphy would have a good shot at making the team then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 They really like Murphy and Jones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 21 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: They really like Murphy and Jones! yeah i posted that in the other thread ( also, shout out to my tweet, thanks TPP). Anyways, we knew Murphy was going to get the bag. He was a top rated UDFA on like every board. So that's a big get. McGlothern is interesting as he was a top rated UDFA, but it seems like the NFL doesn't think much of him with the low $; same for Bo Richter. Jeshaun Jones I will need to go back and watch a bit more. That's big money, must have meant the competition was fierce for him and Vikings really wanted him. From my initial watch, he won mostly in the slot or up the middle, strong hands, nice agility, some big play in home but nothing crazy in terms of missed tackles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Here's all of them besides KJ Cloyd. Gabriel Murphy EDGE - 245k Jeshaun Jones WR - 235k Trey Knox TE - 130k Taki Taimani NT - 100k Doug Nestor OG - 85k Dallas Gant ILB - 55k Jeremy Flax OT/OG - 50k Tyler Manoa DT - 30k Owen Porter OLB - 30k Dwight McGlothern CB - 30k Devron Harper WR - 15k Bo Richter OLB - 15k Matt Cindric OC - 10k Ty James WR - 5k Spencer Rolland OL - 5k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 https://x.com/vikingzfanpage/status/1793411955761590473?t=I74fP3Gv-VsGqwUrmIt9_Q&s=19 Not sure why tweets (Xs?) won't embed but this is the real reason why McGlothern fell to undrafted status! Haha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Like Pace Jr. in 2023, Murphy was evidently neglected in the draft because of size and perceived strength. General managers believed he was too small for the EDGE spot or not strong enough for sustainability. Still, he was supposed to go off the draftboard sometime in the middle rounds but curiously tumbled into the undrafted pool. Shortly after the draft, CBS Sports uplifted Murphy’s rookie profile. Chris Trapasso opined, “Murphy can be the Pace of the 2023 UDFA class for the Vikings, and the similarities between the two are striking. Lack of prototypical size and length was probably the reason Murphy went undrafted — Pace knows how that feels — but, like Pace, Murphy was outstandingly productive in college, and, actually where they differ is Murphy tested like a premier athlete for his respective position.” https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/analysis/undrafted-viking-has-fast-track-to-53-man-roster?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 15 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Like Pace Jr. in 2023, Murphy was evidently neglected in the draft because of size and perceived strength. General managers believed he was too small for the EDGE spot or not strong enough for sustainability. Still, he was supposed to go off the draftboard sometime in the middle rounds but curiously tumbled into the undrafted pool. Shortly after the draft, CBS Sports uplifted Murphy’s rookie profile. Chris Trapasso opined, “Murphy can be the Pace of the 2023 UDFA class for the Vikings, and the similarities between the two are striking. Lack of prototypical size and length was probably the reason Murphy went undrafted — Pace knows how that feels — but, like Pace, Murphy was outstandingly productive in college, and, actually where they differ is Murphy tested like a premier athlete for his respective position.” https://vikingsterritory.com/2024/news/analysis/undrafted-viking-has-fast-track-to-53-man-roster?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook Getting high draft pick production out of UDFAs would certainly soften the blow of having limited draft capital this year and next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Getting high draft pick production out of UDFAs would certainly soften the blow of having limited draft capital this year and next. just for reference, Ravens run a 3-4 as well. Patrick Queen signed a ILB contract this offseason where he's paid like 13m APY. His PFF grade has never been higher than 73 in any of his seasons. Ivan Pace earned a 77.1 PFF grade last year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 29 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Getting high draft pick production out of UDFAs would certainly soften the blow of having limited draft capital this year and next. think what it does for the team's overall salary amount too, for years. i think i read lately that UDFA's sign a $2.3 mil contract for four years. Edited May 23 by vike daddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 In order to make room on the 53-man roster for Risner, the Vikings waived undrafted rookie offensive lineman Matt Cindric. vikings.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) GAS or, Game Athleticism Score, is a non public metric created by PFF that measures in game athleticism through GPS tracking data. Vikings' UDFA percentile rankings: Jeshaun Jones – 93rd '22, 81st '23 Trey Knox – 94th Bo Richter – 99th Dwight McGlothern – 92nd (!!) Kwesi was indeed, cookin’ with GAS Edited June 2 by battle2heaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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