RaidersAreOne Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 It's never too early to start thinking of next years draft class! Looking at some far too early mock drafts and it looks like there's some very nice Defenders this year. What are the early strengths for this class in your opinion? What are the positions that are deep vs. weak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 The Dline for sure and Will Johnson and Starks are better than any CB/S in this 2024 class Not a big fan of the QB class 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Based on my notes and looking around at some early big boards, here's how I'd rank the draft strengths from strongest to weakest this year by position: EDGE, DL, RB, CB, TE, WR, OT, S, QB, IOL, LB. Here's my watchlist I've got saved for the deep classes at EDGE and DL: DL: (Not in any particular order) Deone Walker Kentucky Tyleik Williams OSU Dontay Corleone Cincinnati Kenneth Grant Michigan Howard Cross Notre Dame Nazir Stackhouse Georgia Bear Alexander USC TJ Sanders South Carolina Davin Vann NC State Walter Nolen Ole Miss Thor Griffith Louisville Tim Smith Alabama Rylie Mills Notre Dame Mason Graham Michigan Shemar Turner Texas AM Joey Slackman Florida Cam Jackson Florida Joshua Farmer Florida State Aaron Graves Iowa Yahya Black Iowa JJ Pegues Ole Miss Nash Hutmacher Nebraska Jamaree Caldwell Oregon Aeneas Peebles Virginia Tech Alfred Collins Texas EDGE: James Pearce Jr Tennessee JT Tuimoloau Ohio State Jack Sawyer Ohio State Nic Scourton Texas AM Princely Umanmielen Ole Miss Landon Jackson Arkansas Payton Patrick Florida State Ashton Gillette Louisville RJ Oben Duke Jasheen Davis Wake Forest Tyler Batty BYU Jordan Burch Oregon Antwaun Powell-Ryland Virginia Tech Josiah Stewart Michigan Mykel Williams Georgia Abdul Carter Penn State Kaimon Rucker North Carolina Dani Dennis-Sutton Penn State Cashius Howell Texas AM Collin Oliver OK State Ethan Burke Texas Steve Linton Baylor Derek Moore Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 8 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Based on my notes and looking around at some early big boards, here's how I'd rank the draft strengths from strongest to weakest this year by position: EDGE, DL, RB, CB, TE, WR, OT, S, QB, IOL, LB. Here's my watchlist I've got saved for the deep classes at EDGE and DL: DL: (Not in any particular order) Deone Walker Kentucky Tyleik Williams OSU Dontay Corleone Cincinnati Kenneth Grant Michigan Howard Cross Notre Dame Nazir Stackhouse Georgia Bear Alexander USC TJ Sanders South Carolina Davin Vann NC State Walter Nolen Ole Miss Thor Griffith Louisville Tim Smith Alabama Rylie Mills Notre Dame Mason Graham Michigan Shemar Turner Texas AM Joey Slackman Florida Cam Jackson Florida Joshua Farmer Florida State Aaron Graves Iowa Yahya Black Iowa JJ Pegues Ole Miss Nash Hutmacher Nebraska Jamaree Caldwell Oregon Aeneas Peebles Virginia Tech Alfred Collins Texas EDGE: James Pearce Jr Tennessee JT Tuimoloau Ohio State Jack Sawyer Ohio State Nic Scourton Texas AM Princely Umanmielen Ole Miss Landon Jackson Arkansas Payton Patrick Florida State Ashton Gillette Louisville RJ Oben Duke Jasheen Davis Wake Forest Tyler Batty BYU Jordan Burch Oregon Antwaun Powell-Ryland Virginia Tech Josiah Stewart Michigan Mykel Williams Georgia Abdul Carter Penn State Kaimon Rucker North Carolina Dani Dennis-Sutton Penn State Cashius Howell Texas AM Collin Oliver OK State Ethan Burke Texas Steve Linton Baylor Derek Moore Michigan Could include these guys but some are pretty down there in terms of rating. Diggs could be really good and same with Joyner who was great last year. Gabe Jacas and Jalon Walker are two others but not sure either one declare but both could be really good but are more 3/4 OLBs than DE where most of these guys are that. Abdul Carter moving to DE or 3/4 OLB edge I am not a fan of, he was so great in the middle or as a standup LB but it will be interesting, I guess could increase his versatility as a player but he seems a little light to be a true edge and is better in coverage and on the move than held up on the line. And it is a projection but if Rueben Bain Jr or Kenyatta Jackson have good years a RS SOPH players they could declare but I doubt they will, Jackson will not get a ton of time on that edge with Sawyer and Tuimoloau but who knows. Bain could be a ton of action though but with NIL not sure he declares. DE Jah Joyner Minnesota RS Fadil Diggs Syracuse RS Danny Striggow Minnesota RS Jared Ivey Ole Miss RS Johnny Walker Jr Missouri RS Ethan Downs Oklahoma Barryn Sorrell Texas Van Fillinger Utah Tyler Baron Louisville RS James Thompson Jr Wisconsin RS Kyle Kennard South Carolina RS Reggie Grimes Oklahoma RS Darian Varner Cincinnati RS Eric Gregory Arkansas RS Jack Sullivan USC RS Connor O'Toole Utah Collin McCarthy UCONN Nana Osafo-Mensah TCU RS Trace Ford Oklahoma RS Watson has a chance to be better than Jackson on Florida but we will see and Ty Robinson could be a monster 3/4 DE. Also Oatis could have a monster year but time will tell, that guy is huge. Not sure TJ Sanders declares or Farmer but Chris McClellan will be interesting transferring over to Missouri, he is super talented. DT or 3/4 DE Ty Robinson Nebraska RS Tim Keenan III Alabama RS JR Jaheim Oatis Alabama JR Ty Hamilton Ohio State Desmond Watson Florida Voi Tunuufi Washington* Warren Brinson Georgia RS Tim Smith Alabama RS Octavious Oxendine Kentucky RS Ricky Barber UCF RS Trill Carter Auburn RS Omari Thomas Tennessee RS Jermayne Lole Oklahoma RS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 DL and Edge seem very strong. I think there are a couple of guys in this class who would have been Edge 1 if they were draftable. I would add Tyler Baron (transfer portal), Patrick Jenkins (Tulane), and Ethan Burke (Texas) to that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 From a thousand yard overview, way too far out...it definitely feels like it's going to pick up the slack in terms of Edge and DLine players from this year's weak draft there. The QB class is interesting. Right now, it looks a lot wider than it is tall. That is to say, there are an awful lot of intriguing prospects who could really move on up with a great final college season. But there's really no "bluechip" headliner to speak of. I'd be shocked if at least one or two of those guys didn't have a heck of a season to really separate themselves from the crowd though. Others will inevitably lay an egg and fall off into Day3 obscurity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 11 hours ago, Tugboat said: From a thousand yard overview, way too far out...it definitely feels like it's going to pick up the slack in terms of Edge and DLine players from this year's weak draft there. The QB class is interesting. Right now, it looks a lot wider than it is tall. That is to say, there are an awful lot of intriguing prospects who could really move on up with a great final college season. But there's really no "bluechip" headliner to speak of. I'd be shocked if at least one or two of those guys didn't have a heck of a season to really separate themselves from the crowd though. Others will inevitably lay an egg and fall off into Day3 obscurity. Shadows of the 2023 QB class. There are a few that look like they could make a step and immediately get there. I'd think Sheduer Sanders is the obvious favorite, with Carson Beck the other. Ewers I feel like is next year's Penix/Nix: has his fans, but is what he is and unless the class ends up super weak, he'll be like QB 3 or 4. Jalen Milroe could get there if he improves. He'd need to improve a lot, but he did improve a lot over the course of the season at Bama, and now has a prime offensive mind coaching him. Other than that, it's a lot of guys that have been starters for a while, but look more like inevitable middle to late rounders than possible breakouts. Maybe Jaxson Dart or Drew Aller could work their way up there, but I wouldn't bet on it. Rich in midround backup types though. Cam Ward, Riley Leonard, Dillon Gabriel, DJ Uiagelelei, Tyler Van Dyke, Will Rogers, Grayson McCall, and Noah Fifita are all there imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 My surprise possible 1st rounder: Will Rogers QB. He is supremely underrated IMO. Could be a massive riser and end up a top 10 dude when it’s all said & done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 It will be a strong and deep QB class. I was so intrigued with this year’s class, but all the depth that intrigued me returned to school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) Miller Moss gonna be in these top QB conversations. Them riley boys tend to go early Edited April 30 by Chiefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Could be a really intriguing TE class; Loveland is obviously TE1 at the moment, he should be option #1/2 in that UM pass game this year. Mitchell Evans and Luke Lachey could be the next in the line of ND and Iowa elite TE prospects. Oscar Delp is going to step into Bowers role at UGA, Benjamin Yurosek transferred in from Stanford and could fly up boards with a productive year there too. I like Mason Taylor from LSU a lot as a day 2 TE. Jake Briningstool, Caden Prieskorn, RJ Maryland, Harold Fannin, Bryson Nesbit, Gavin Bartholomew have all been productive players too. Brant Kuithe profiles as a fun H-back type like Bell this year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 So I already hate Sanders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Yeesh. Yeah, that's not a good look. I mean, I get wanting to defend your dad and all, but that's not a good attitude. No gonna matter if he's the best QB prospect though, but not a great start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: So I already hate Sanders. me too. Sanders and his kids are awful cocky for winning 4 games. I hope they lose even more this year. Good story at Jackson St. and has been nothing but crap since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 I don’t see the hype with Sanders at all. Even if he were an A+++ teammate, he has no real special traits IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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