CWood21 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just now, cannondale said: Campen to OC would be ridiculous. Just give the guy a raise Can't deny the work he's done. I'd hate to lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Big decisions for McCarthy. 2018 he's on the hot seat with a new GM that didn't hire him. He needs to really nail these OC/DC hirings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugLymayNe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Can't deny the work he's done. I'd hate to lose him. I'd hate to lose him but just as much as I'd dislike seeing him as offensive coordinator. I agree - give the dude a raise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugLymayNe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, deltarich87 said: Big decisions for McCarthy. 2018 he's on the hot seat with a new GM that didn't hire him. He needs to really nail these OC/DC hirings If they hire Wolfe/Gute I don't see Mike being on the hot seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, ugLymayNe said: If they hire Wolfe/Gute I don't see Mike being on the hot seat. Who knows. Not like they were the ones who hired McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 MM is in charge of all the coaches right ? These are his moves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, ugLymayNe said: I'd hate to lose him but just as much as I'd dislike seeing him as offensive coordinator. I agree - give the dude a raise I think it depends on what happens with play calling. If Mac keeps the play calling, promoting him to OC doesn't really change a whole lot. Or at least I'd hope it wouldn't. Either way, this OC hire is going to tell us what kind of stance they are taking on Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, cannondale said: MM is in charge of all the coaches right ? These are his moves ? That's the general speculation, because normally the coaches are hired by the HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deltarich87 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, cannondale said: MM is in charge of all the coaches right ? These are his moves ? Yeah, Murphy said McCarthy will be filling out his staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: I think it depends on what happens with play calling. If Mac keeps the play calling, promoting him to OC doesn't really change a whole lot. Or at least I'd hope it wouldn't. Either way, this OC hire is going to tell us what kind of stance they are taking on Mac. opportunity cost of making him the OC is you can't hire a good OC from outside the building. There's definitely a hidden cost of making an OL coach who doesn't contribute to the game plan into the OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, skibrett15 said: opportunity cost of making him the OC is you can't hire a good OC from outside the building. There's definitely a hidden cost of making an OL coach who doesn't contribute to the game plan into the OC. I'd be really, really surprised if Campen was part of the game planning for the offense. He's obviously not the one making the final calls, but if he's not providing input than maybe he's part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I think it depends on what happens with play calling. If Mac keeps the play calling, promoting him to OC doesn't really change a whole lot. Or at least I'd hope it wouldn't. Either way, this OC hire is going to tell us what kind of stance they are taking on Mac. It changes a whole helluva lot. He would no longer coach the OL. Sometimes moving someone from a position they excel at weakens 2 groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 yeah, who knows what the campen impact really is. He's definitely on the list of guys you want to keep around. OC is basically the sole leadership position on offense under McCarthy, so you want to ensure that whoever is in that spot is there because they are bringing a lot of input. I don't like promoting a guy who is good at one thing because you're afraid of losing him, and then assuming he can do the next thing when they really aren't all that related. We know Campen can coach the heck out of em at OL. We don't know if he can do anything more. I'm ok with Campen at OC I guess, but I hate the rationale that we should promote him to avoid losing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, cannondale said: It changes a whole helluva lot. He would no longer coach the OL. Sometimes moving someone from a position they excel at weakens 2 groups I believe our OC isn't ran the same way most teams are, where the OC is the play caller. They're part of the game planning, which means less individual coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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