MantyWrestler Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, incognito_man said: He's not as good as him. He's worse. I feel like that's what I just said, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, MantyWrestler said: I feel like that's what I just said, lol I feel like you didn't say the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 9 hours ago, incognito_man said: He's not as good as him. He's worse. Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Apparently Fanspeak made a ton of changes to their format to make mock drafts more difficult to breeze through. My first attempt went as follows This draft would prompt me to cut Cobb, Trevor Davis and probably Geronimo Allison. 14: R1P14 WR CALVIN RIDLEY ALABAMA 45: R2P13 EDGE AUSTIN BRYANT CLEMSON 76: R3P12 TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA 102: R3P38 WR MICHAEL GALLUP COLORADO STATE 116: R4P14 CB HOLTON HILL TEXAS 152: R5P13 CB DONT JACKSON LSU 173: R5P34 WR KAVONTAE TURPIN TCU 175: R5P36 DL ZAYCOVEN HENDERSON TEXAS A&M 177: R5P38 EDGE K.J. SMITH BAYLOR 190: R6P12 C BRIAN ALLEN MICHIGAN STATE 233: R7P14 DL DREW BAILEY LOUISVILLE 241: R7P22 LB NICK DELUCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I don't think Fanspeak has this running very realistically yet because all of my results are pretty unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Rodjahs12 said: I don't think Fanspeak has this running very realistically yet because all of my results are pretty unlikely. Fanspeak has been horrendous for it's entire existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 12 hours ago, CWood21 said: 22 hours ago, incognito_man said: He's not as good as him. He's worse. Wrong. you are on the wrong side of being right, here. I'm not a UW homer, Fumagali is alright, nothing special IMO. But he has more tools than Andrews. I know you're an OU homer, though so I'll let your eval error slide on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Fanspeak is not about who you draft (not for me anyway). It's about where the value is, for various positions, about which position groups need to ne snagged quickly and which give value in later rounds. That helps you improve draft strategy. The reason I like the idea of drafting OLB, WR, CB, TE (in that orer) in the first three rounds, is that it's hard to get a top pass rusher after rd1. The better WRs drop off in the mid second (depending on how demanding your criteria is). The CBs group has many of the highest ranked prospects in rounds 3-5. TE looks like it might just about give up a good one with a 3rd comp pick (in fact CB and TE could be in reverse order). At it's heart, Fanspeak best asset is more about allowing the computer to pick every other teams perceived needs, than who you pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNPackfan32 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Watching Minkah Fitzpatrick, and I just keep waiting for him to be better than what he is. Don't get me wrong, he's a really good prospect and he would be a positive addition to any team. I just kept waiting for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, MNPackfan32 said: Watching Minkah Fitzpatrick, and I just keep waiting for him to be better than what he is. Don't get me wrong, he's a really good prospect and he would be a positive addition to any team. I just kept waiting for more. So much this. I just watch him and see a guy who's going to be in Micah Hyde's role of Slot/Safety guy who doesn't rock either spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 What's the hit rate on Alabama CB's ? I think they have had quite a few drafted. Just wondering if that surrounding cast hides some flaws. I have no idea - just asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: So much this. I just watch him and see a guy who's going to be in Micah Hyde's role of Slot/Safety guy who doesn't rock either spot. If you mean an Pro bowl safety that is near the lead in INT's, not sure that is a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, squire12 said: If you mean an Pro bowl safety that is near the lead in INT's, not sure that is a bad thing. If Micah Hyde plays at a pro bowl level next year, consider me to have egg on my face. I'll have no issue admitting it. My issue with the "Micah Hyde was a pro bowl caliber talent who just was misused in Green Bay by our evil and retarded DC" or even the "Micah Hyde is a Pro Bowl Caliber Talent" argument is first one of sample size, and second one of again sample size, but more importantly a guy making his plays at the right time. Safeties get balls thrown to them and the distribution of those throws are not regular. They come in bunches. Hyde got a bunch of opportunities this year. He's made some nice plays on the ball, but he's also had a lot of opportunities. If he continues to get the same amount of volume next year and maintains the production, I'll be impressed but personally I'm dubious that it will happen. Micah Hyde had 5 picks (4 that were beneficial to his team) in the first 7 weeks of the season. That was when everybody was paying attention for Pro Bowl voting. Since then he's had 0. If Micah Hyde went the first 9 weeks of the season with 0 picks, and then rattled off 5 in the last 7 weeks, he's not a pro bowler and nobody is gnashing their teeth over letting Hyde go. There seemed to be this assumption that Hyde's production in the first 7 weeks was going to continue, and obviously it hasn't, not because Hyde is somehow playing worse, but because that level of production is unsustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcerb44 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 In regards to Hyde. Nobody was really sad to see him go. At the time, we went younger and tried to inject more speed into the defense. Can’t fault the team for that. Additionally, he may have looked better here had he not dropped a majority of his interception opportunities. Good player, but there’s no way in hell he’s a multi-year pro bowl talent. I just can’t see that ever happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNPackfan32 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 43 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: So much this. I just watch him and see a guy who's going to be in Micah Hyde's role of Slot/Safety guy who doesn't rock either spot. I think Fitzpatrick is a fair about better especially man to man. I think he's a better athlete, but yeah, I get what you're saying. Rich man's Hyde. Not a bad thing, just not a great thing. One thing that bothers me about him at times is his tackling, seems to stop his feet and not deliver with power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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