squire12 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 So with the rules being provided, WAS can tag Cousins, but this being the 3rd time, they are the only team that can negotiate a LTD with him. So if tag and trade were to be allowed, WAS could tag him at $35M and trade him to a team that would be stuck with that $35M for 2018 without the ability to do a LTD OR Was could tag him and work out a LTD according to the APY and SB requirements laid out in the TCMD. Then WAS could trade him and take the cap hit for 2018 based on the cap ramifications in trading a player. Is that the summary of options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, jch1911 said: Not... real... world... just... a.... sim Ya and people overvalue picks even more in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: So with the rules being provided, WAS can tag Cousins, but this being the 3rd time, they are the only team that can negotiate a LTD with him. So if tag and trade were to be allowed, WAS could tag him at $35M and trade him to a team that would be stuck with that $35M for 2018 without the ability to do a LTD OR Was could tag him and work out a LTD according to the APY and SB requirements laid out in the TCMD. Then WAS could trade him and take the cap hit for 2018 based on the cap ramifications in trading a player. Is that the summary of options? That sounds correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, MKnight82 said: Ya and people overvalue picks even more in this. Not 2019 picks... which is why there is the limitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHooligan00 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: So with the rules being provided, WAS can tag Cousins, but this being the 3rd time, they are the only team that can negotiate a LTD with him. So if tag and trade were to be allowed, WAS could tag him at $35M and trade him to a team that would be stuck with that $35M for 2018 without the ability to do a LTD OR Was could tag him and work out a LTD according to the APY and SB requirements laid out in the TCMD. Then WAS could trade him and take the cap hit for 2018 based on the cap ramifications in trading a player. Is that the summary of options? According to how i understand the CBA that is correct, and i have even heard that on plenty of Football shows, however It doesn't actually say he cant, even though i keep hearing opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, squire12 said: So with the rules being provided, WAS can tag Cousins, but this being the 3rd time, they are the only team that can negotiate a LTD with him. So if tag and trade were to be allowed, WAS could tag him at $35M and trade him to a team that would be stuck with that $35M for 2018 without the ability to do a LTD OR Was could tag him and work out a LTD according to the APY and SB requirements laid out in the TCMD. Then WAS could trade him and take the cap hit for 2018 based on the cap ramifications in trading a player. Is that the summary of options? if this is correct, could Washington work out a LTD with no SB $$$$ (and thus no dead $$$)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHooligan00 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Als oheard on shows he can't be traded if he is tagged agin, so i don't totally know lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, jch1911 said: if this is correct, could Washington work out a LTD with no SB $$$$ (and thus no dead $$$)? I don’t think that would be allowed under TCMD rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHooligan00 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, jch1911 said: if this is correct, could Washington work out a LTD with no SB $$$$ (and thus no dead $$$)? That would be super unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, jch1911 said: 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: So with the rules being provided, WAS can tag Cousins, but this being the 3rd time, they are the only team that can negotiate a LTD with him. So if tag and trade were to be allowed, WAS could tag him at $35M and trade him to a team that would be stuck with that $35M for 2018 without the ability to do a LTD OR Was could tag him and work out a LTD according to the APY and SB requirements laid out in the TCMD. Then WAS could trade him and take the cap hit for 2018 based on the cap ramifications in trading a player. Is that the summary of options? if this is correct, could Washington work out a LTD with no SB $$$$ (and thus no dead $$$)? Not according to the TCMD rules for extensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, IrishHooligan00 said: Als oheard on shows he can't be traded if he is tagged agin, so i don't totally know lol Ya that was a rumor for awhile but it isn’t true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, IrishHooligan00 said: 2 minutes ago, jch1911 said: if this is correct, could Washington work out a LTD with no SB $$$$ (and thus no dead $$$)? That would be super unrealistic. Yup...if we are going for realism, why would Cousins sign a deal without a big SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Seems silly for WAS to want to work out an extension with $40+M in signing bonus needed and then trade him only to have to eat that SB as dead cap. It would cost more to do that than let Cousins play on the Franchise tag at $35M Based on the TCMD info on expected SB of $6.9M on a 5-7 year expected deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, squire12 said: Seems silly for WAS to want to work out an extension with $40+M in signing bonus needed and then trade him only to have to eat that SB as dead cap. It would cost more to do that than let Cousins play on the Franchise tag at $35M Based on the TCMD info on expected SB of $6.9M on a 5-7 year expected deal That should be our option though. We shouldn’t be restricted from trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 As long as it does not create SUPER MORE work for Mike & he (+ other GMs are cool with it), I would co-sign As long as there is some downside to the tag&trade so we don't have people "gaming" the system 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: Seems silly for WAS to want to work out an extension with $40+M in signing bonus needed and then trade him only to have to eat that SB as dead cap. It would cost more to do that than let Cousins play on the Franchise tag at $35M Based on the TCMD info on expected SB of $6.9M on a 5-7 year expected deal 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: That should be our option though. We shouldn’t be restricted from trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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