Dolphins1984 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, keysersoze3421 said: Here's my top 50 in PPR: Tier 1 1 Antonio Brown 2 Odell Beckham 3 Jordy Nelson 4 Julio Jones 5 A.J. Green 6 Mike Evans Tier 2 7 Michael Thomas 8 Dez Bryant Tier 3 9 Doug Baldwin 10 Brandin Cooks 11 Terrelle Pryor 12 T.Y. Hilton 13 Amari Cooper 14 Davante Adams 15 Michael Crabtree 16 Demaryius Thomas 17 Tyrell Williams Tier 4 18 Larry Fitzgerald 19 DeAndre Hopkins 20 Golden Tate 21 Keenan Allen 22 Allen Robinson Tier 5 23 Jarvis Landry 24 Jamison Crowder 25 Jeremy Maclin 26 Willie Snead 27 Alshon Jeffery 28 Corey Davis 29 Eric Decker Tier 6 30 Stefon Diggs 31 Tyreek Hill 32 Sammy Watkins 33 Emmanuel Sanders 34 Martavis Bryant 35 Brandon Marshall 36 Pierre Garcon Tier 7 37 Kelvin Benjamin 38 Kenny Britt 39 Randall Cobb 40 Chris Hogan 41 Donte Moncrief 42 DeSean Jackson 43 Jordan Matthews 44 Robby Anderson 45 Corey Coleman 46 DeVante Parker 47 Marvin Jones 48 John Brown 49 Danny Amendola 50 Adam Thielen Hey, really enjoyed your top 50 WR rankings but I have a few questions. Why are you so low on Kelvin Benjamin (37) and DeVante Parker (46)? Both players look to be trending up this preseason. Why so high on Tyrell Williams (17) and Michael Crabtree (15)? What’s makes up the difference for you for the players in tier gaps 4-6? I would be interested in seeing your top 50 RB rankings for PPR. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'm also curious to hear why you rank Tyrell ahead of Keenan Allen (I have both on one of my teams, with Tyrell essentially acting as a valuable handcuff). Also curious to hear your thoughts on Ted Ginn being named the #2 ahead of Willie Snead. Snead is a player I am low on this season and I think Ginn is a sneaky bet to finish as a top 30 WR as the only real deep threat on that Saints high octane offense that will force defenses to respect the run this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Key & anyone else, need input on what could be a preseason blockbuster move. Quick run over of scoring. 1 PPR w/ +3 for 100+ yards and +5 for 200+ yards. Here's the current makeup of my team (12 team league): QB: D.Brees RB: L.McCoy / J.Ajayi / M.Ingram / S.Vereen WR: K.Allen / D.Thomas / P.Garcon / T.Williams / T.Ginn / Z.Jones TE: Z.Ertz / J.Doyle D/ST: Panthers / Chargers (traded Vikings+Ebron for Chargers+Garcon) K: M.BryantOFFER Send: J.Ajayi + T.Ginn Receive: D.Martin + J.Mixon + M.Gillislee Obviously this would be a huge move. Ajayi was a maniac in this league last year with the yardage bonuses once he was made starter. I'd be getting three risky investments in return with hopes that at least two of them become valuable. I'm trying to squeeze one of Crabtree or Tyreek out of him to improve my WR3 spot, but he's been stubborn about it to-date (I'd be adding Vereen & Doyle, his current TE is Evan Engram). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, SoS said: Key & anyone else, need input on what could be a preseason blockbuster move. Quick run over of scoring. 1 PPR w/ +3 for 100+ yards and +5 for 200+ yards. Here's the current makeup of my team (12 team league): QB: D.Brees RB: L.McCoy / J.Ajayi / M.Ingram / S.Vereen WR: K.Allen / D.Thomas / P.Garcon / T.Williams / T.Ginn / Z.Jones TE: Z.Ertz / J.Doyle D/ST: Panthers / Chargers (traded Vikings+Ebron for Chargers+Garcon) K: M.BryantOFFER Send: J.Ajayi + T.Ginn Receive: D.Martin + J.Mixon + M.Gillislee Obviously this would be a huge move. Ajayi was a maniac in this league last year with the yardage bonuses once he was made starter. I'd be getting three risky investments in return with hopes that at least two of them become valuable. I'm trying to squeeze one of Crabtree or Tyreek out of him to improve my WR3 spot, but he's been stubborn about it to-date (I'd be adding Vereen & Doyle, his current TE is Evan Engram). Coming from someone who isn't a big Ajayi fan, i'd say no to the trade. I have Mixon and Gil in my $ league but not really sure of their role yet. Ajayi and Mccoy are such a solid 1-2 punch, I'd like to see some sort of star power come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 hours ago, keysersoze3421 said: Pretty good. I'm a little iffy about your receivers. Hilton with no luck and Jeffery's injury history are question marks. I like backing them up with high-floor guys like Decker and Maclin, though. I probably would have taken a receiver over AP in the 7th. I agree with you with the AP thing, He burned me last year and I guess I really wanted him on 1 team this year just in case he does well. (just my luck) Injuries don't really affect me to much when drafting anymore they're so unpredictable you never know when someone is going to get hurt, Yes guys get injured more often then not but it doesn't affect me during draft time. I was thinking about just using Maclin as my WR2 for the most part thoughts on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 hours ago, SoS said: Key & anyone else, need input on what could be a preseason blockbuster move. Quick run over of scoring. 1 PPR w/ +3 for 100+ yards and +5 for 200+ yards. Here's the current makeup of my team (12 team league): QB: D.Brees RB: L.McCoy / J.Ajayi / M.Ingram / S.Vereen WR: K.Allen / D.Thomas / P.Garcon / T.Williams / T.Ginn / Z.Jones TE: Z.Ertz / J.Doyle D/ST: Panthers / Chargers (traded Vikings+Ebron for Chargers+Garcon) K: M.BryantOFFER Send: J.Ajayi + T.Ginn Receive: D.Martin + J.Mixon + M.Gillislee Obviously this would be a huge move. Ajayi was a maniac in this league last year with the yardage bonuses once he was made starter. I'd be getting three risky investments in return with hopes that at least two of them become valuable. I'm trying to squeeze one of Crabtree or Tyreek out of him to improve my WR3 spot, but he's been stubborn about it to-date (I'd be adding Vereen & Doyle, his current TE is Evan Engram). I agree with @JaguarCrazy2832 I wouldn't do that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 If Chad Henne were to get the starting gig in Jacksonville (and i know they said Bortles is the starter) how much would that help or hurt Allen Robinson? Also, in the mocks I do, i like how my team looks the most when i go 3 RBs in the first 3 rounds. I find myself with a lot of DeMarco-Fournette-Cook/Crowell/Mixon and then i'll snag up guys like Kelvin, Davante Adams, Crabtree or Tate between the 4th and 6th rounds. That being said, if a WR like Jordy Nelson or Michael Thomas fall to the 2nd round, i'd be stupid to pass on him for a 3rd tier RB right? When that happens on occasion, i always seem to hate my flex spot, I'm always picking between guys like Garcon and DeVante Parker to fill that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvadorsDeli Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 20 hours ago, keysersoze3421 said: I'd try to trade Moncrief for a better RB than Williams before making that drop. Moncrief still may carry some clout in others' eyes. Love, love your team though. I'm high on Green, Murray, Montgomery, McCaffrey, and Davis. Thanks - I offered Moncrief for Ameer Abdullah yesterday, don't think the other guy is gonna bite but worth a shot I guess. Also want to echo the questions around you ranking Tyrell Williams so high. I know Mike Williams is hobbled with injuries but it seems like Tyrell is the #2 at best in that offense behind Keenan Allen and a placeholder until Mike gets healthy - what has you thinking he's WR17? Tyrell just got dropped in my league so I may just swap Moncrief for him and hold on moving for a 5th RB until after Week 1 when antsy owners start dropping worthwhile handcuffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze3421 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 20 hours ago, TheVillain112 said: Appreciate it @keysersoze3421 I may die on this hill, but I think Adam Thielen should be in Tier 5 (In PPR leagues). I think he'll consistently be Bradfords check down target which means he'll get a lot of opportunities. I trust him more than a guy like Jeremy Maclin. Thielen did finish as WR#30 last year (I believe) and I think he can do that again this year... Once you get past like 10 guys, it's a total crapshoot. I've seen rankings with guys everywhere. I can totally see Thielen becoming a valuable PPR player, but I also see Diggs as the primary checkdown target. His YPC reflected his work close to the LOS. I also don't have a whole lot of hope for RZ looks for Thielen or Diggs because Rudolph was second in RZ targets among all players, and if Bradford's not looking for him, he's probably handing it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze3421 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 19 hours ago, lancerman said: 12 man ppr QB: Drew Brees WR: OBJ WR: Eric Decker RB: Adrian Peterson RB: Marshawn Lynch TE: Kelce Flex: undecided pick from my bench K: Prater D/ST: Broncos Bench: Rex Burkhead Bench: James White Bench: Big Ben Bench: Mohammad Sanu Bench: Austin Hooper Bench: Devin Funchess Bench: Giants defense hows this look Keyser I'm frightened of your RBs. You have two guys that are over 30 that I'm avoiding and then two Pats guys who could cannibalize the other's value. I also think you need to make some moves at your WR spot for better depth than Sanu and Funchess. There was no need to draft Hooper or Ben with Brees and Kelce on your roster. Those spots should have gone to WR/RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntitans4life17 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 10 man PPR, had 6th pick: QB: Marcus Mariota RB: LeSean McCoy RB: Isaiah Crowell WR: Michael Thomas WR: Terrelle Pryor TE: Tyler Eifert R/W/T: Larry Fitzgerald R/W/T: Kareem Hunt D/ST: Panthers Bench: Rex Burkhead Rob Kelley Alvin Kamara Tyreek Hill Zay Jones Mike Wallace Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers0909 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Key, do you have your RB tiers? Also I've got my 2QB draft tonight, its 12 team PPR and I have the 2nd pick. The way my mocks have been going I typically get Bell, Dez, and Baldwin/Cooper in the first three rounds. Is the end of round 4/start of round 5 too late to take my first QB you think? It typically plays out that I'll be in the Luck, Winston, Mariota tier of QBs in the 2nd and 3rd round and I just feel like grabbing two borderline top 10 WRs is worth it more than one of the QBs. If that happens I'm looking at Rivers/Stafford/Ben in rounds 4/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 On 8/25/2017 at 5:34 PM, kingseanjohn said: I can keep four players, with no loss of draft picks. League starts 2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX and has 0.5 ppr. Which four do you keep? QB: Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Dak Prescott RB: Mike Gillislee, Thomas Rawls, Melvin Gordon, Jerick McKinnon, Tim Hightower WR: Michael Thomas, Jarvis Landry, Michael Crabtree, Demaryius Thomas, Travis Benjamin, TE: Rob Gronkowski, Maretllus Bennett, Kyle Rudolph I'm leaning towards Prescott, Gordon, M Thomas, then Rivers/Roethlisberger and hopefully trade the other one. I'd like to keep Gronk (had him since 2011). But the guy just can't stay healthy. I appreciate any input! I'm bumping my own post. Haven't got any responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 5 hours ago, flyers0909 said: Key, do you have your RB tiers? Also I've got my 2QB draft tonight, its 12 team PPR and I have the 2nd pick. The way my mocks have been going I typically get Bell, Dez, and Baldwin/Cooper in the first three rounds. Is the end of round 4/start of round 5 too late to take my first QB you think? It typically plays out that I'll be in the Luck, Winston, Mariota tier of QBs in the 2nd and 3rd round and I just feel like grabbing two borderline top 10 WRs is worth it more than one of the QBs. If that happens I'm looking at Rivers/Stafford/Ben in rounds 4/5. His RB tiers were on the other forum, they haven't been updated in a bit...but here was his post on July 27th.... Quote Designed for PPR. If you have questions about adjustments for standard, just ask. Tier 1 1 David Johnson 2 Le'Veon Bell 3 Ezekiel Elliott Tier 2 4 Melvin Gordon 5 LeSean McCoy 6 DeMarco Murray Tier 3 7 Devonta Freeman 8 Jay Ajayi 9 Jordan Howard 10 Lamar Miller 11 Joe Mixon Tier 4 12 Leonard Fournette 13 Isaiah Crowell 14 Todd Gurley 15 Spencer Ware 16 Ty Montgomery 17 Carlos Hyde 18 Marshawn Lynch 19 CJ Anderson 20 Danny Woodhead 21 Dalvin Cook 22 Christian McCaffrey Tier 5 23 Tevin Coleman 24 Frank Gore 25 Mike Gillislee 26 Bilal Powell 27 Paul Perkins 28 Terrance West 29 Mark Ingram 30 Derrick Henry 31 Ameer Abdullah 32 Doug Martin 33 Adrian Peterson 34 Eddie Lacy Tier 6 34 Theo Riddick 35 LeGarrette Blount 36 Samaje Perine 37 Jacquizz Rodgers 38 Rob Kelley 39 Matt Forte 40 Thomas Rawls 41 CJ Prosise 42 James White 43 Gio Bernard 44 Jonathan Stewart 45 Latavius Murray Tier 7 46 Jamaal Williams 47 Jonathan Williams 48 Kareem Hunt 49 DeAndre Washington 50 Joe Williams Notes: * After the first 25 or so names, it became really tough to distinguish guys. There are pros and cons to almost all of them, and how you weigh those pros and cons can ultimately determine whether you agree with the rankings or not. If you don't think Mark Ingram is in any danger of losing his job, maybe you move him into the top 20. If you think Eddie Lacy is a safer bet than I do, maybe he's a low-end RB2. If you disagree with the rankings, I probably won't fight you on a ton since RB is a really tough spot this year. * Most experts have Devonta Freeman in Tier 2 with McCoy, Gordon, and Murray. After reviewing last year's numbers, I saw Freeman as a step below. His median RB16 finish was significantly lower than those of the other guys (McCoy - 4.5; Gordon - 8.5; Murray - 9) and more in line with Ajayi and Howard. Top 12 finishes: Murray - 11, McCoy - 9, Gordon - 8, Freeman - 6. * I'm significantly higher on Joe Mixon than most analysts, though two names I trust, Matt Waldman and Sigmund Bloom, have him 13 and 12, respectively. I see a lot of Matt Forte in Mixon, and I think his overall skillset is the best among the rookie RBs. He's an excellent pass catcher, and I'm willing to take a gamble on him in the 3rd round. I think it became clear the Bengals do not like Jeremy Hill and do not plan to use him much. If Gio Bernard were healthy to start the season, I might re-think how high I have Mixon, but my guess is he takes the job and doesn't look back. * Cannot get behind drafting Marshawn Lynch this season. On paper with the elite O-line and a year of rest, it looks like a clear path to fantasy points, but my gut is telling me to stay away. * Why zero RB might work this year: you can get about 5 guys in the late 6th round or later that look poised for 200+ carries. Paul Perkins (late 6th), LeGarrette Blount (late 6th), Frank Gore (7th round), Samaje Perine (8th) or Rob Kelley (10th), and Terrance West (10th) all could bring solid RB2 value, well above their draft slots. * If you need an early season starter and you trust your ability to find an RB on the waiver wire, look no further than Jacquizz Rodgers, who is being drafted in the 11th round and has a clear path to the starting job for the first three weeks. His weekly PPR finishes in his starts last year: RB14, RB14, RB15, RB18, RB38. He's definitely worth a look if you load up early on WRs or go zero RB. * Last tier is just a handful of guys who are in pretty good situations and could become starters midway through the season due to an injury. I have them so low because I don't recommend drafting them as anything more than last round fliers. I wonder if @keysersoze3421 has Hunt as a top15 RB now that Ware is out and if any of those rookies are making their way up his big board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: I'm bumping my own post. Haven't got any responses Gronk, M. Thomas, Gordon, Prescott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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