{Family Ghost} Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Fair, but what you seem to be missing is that even with the examples you're citing, that's still most definitely not the more likely outcome. I hear ya ... just think it's hard to judge Kizer given how bad that team was and how green he was as a rookie. He shouldn't have been playing last year. It will be interesting to see how he progresses the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Damarious Randall tweets- "Madden Game anyone? I got the Browns" Davante Adams replies- "Go to sleep lol, its been a long day" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: If Kizer plays in preseason and plays well, it really does not do much for his trade value. Kizer would need to play meaningful minutes in regular season games and lead GB to wins. Something that no one really wants to see. Eh tell that to Hasselbeck, and Jimmy G had the hype before ever starting for the suspended Brady. Look at McCarron too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 kizer is w/e. Camp competition to push hundley. He's nothing to get excited about at this point. He was a project QB just like Hundley coming out of ND, and he remains a project after a completely lost year in cleveland. Hopefully, the CLE year doesn't put him beyond repair. He has slightly more tools than Hundley, and certainly shown more on tape as far as being a pocket passer in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, Packerraymond said: Eh tell that to Hasselbeck, and Jimmy G had the hype before ever starting for the suspended Brady. Look at McCarron too. Hasselbeck is 20 years ago Jimmy G had regular season game tape that drove the trade value. McCarron also had regular season game tape that was more impressive than Kizer. Kizer has 15 games of flat out bad QB play. Preseason games are really not going to erase that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: 8 TDs and 9 turnovers in week 1 and 10-16 where he had Coleman and Gordon. Went 3/6 games without a TD and only 1/6 games without an INT. In weeks 10-16. Congrats on getting to play the Packers garbage D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm just going to say that anybody going to a coach/GM and demanding a player gets traded needs to mind their own damn business, but even if you needed to move Randall, we still got a crap package for him. What if it was Aaron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Went 3/6 games without a TD and only 1/6 games without an INT. In weeks 10-16. Congrats on getting to play the Packers garbage D. Those are the games he had NFL talent around him. He played who was on the schedule. Even still he had one of the worst receiving groups in those games but at least it was better than the MAC level group he had weeks 2-9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Green19 said: 18 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm just going to say that anybody going to a coach/GM and demanding a player gets traded needs to mind their own damn business, but even if you needed to move Randall, we still got a crap package for him. What if it was Aaron? Then Aaron would be evolving more and more into a Farve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Green19 said: What if it was Aaron? That's a little bit of a different issue, and at that point you're making a tough call. You would hope your QB isn't doing that ****, and if he is, he's sticking to the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, squire12 said: Is 4 Mph supposed to be meaningful for arm strength? That seems to be rather insignificant. 17 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: You're point being what? Hundley doesn't lack arm strength. They're both fine. The problem with both of them is they're inaccurate and often don't know what to do with the ball. Seems pretty meaningless And I mean that sincerely, I had no idea if it meant anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Another fine example, but again we're talking the 80s. 40 years later a 1:2 TD:INT ratio is mind bogglingly terrible. Steve Young sucked with the Bucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, fattlipp said: Steve Young sucked with the Bucs. I can't tell if you're trying to refute the point or are agreeing that rookie numbers from that era are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, squire12 said: Hasselbeck is 20 years ago Jimmy G had regular season game tape that drove the trade value. McCarron also had regular season game tape that was more impressive than Kizer. Kizer has 15 games of flat out bad QB play. Preseason games are really not going to erase that. NFL talent evaluators have the ability to reason. I guarantee you they aren't going to hold it against a 21 year old kid that he had to QB one of the worst rosters in NFL history because of inept management. Especially if he goes to one of the highest level franchises and hones his craft to the point where he looks sharp every time he hits the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sami88 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Got to love the passion of us packer fans. I for one am glad that our brain trust is at least making some moves If they feel that someone doesn’t fit on our team move on! We love our players but how can you feel we didn’t get enough for a average corner when Marcus Peters was traded I believe for a 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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